https://store.steampowered.com/app/1551360/Forza_Horizon_5/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2440510/Forza_Motorsport/
both games and all packages are discounted -65%

Thing is, steam search and steamdb show only -50%, but the store page clearly shows -65%
So there's an error in one of these places, hard to tell which one...
I think I'll go for FH5 Premium edition.

[edit] Confirmed in the comments the deeper discount is for FH4 owners.

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They show as 50% off for me

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You mean at the store page as well? Maybe it's some hidden discount for example for FH4 owners?
Literally every price aggregator only shows -50%, but my eyes see -65%...

Interestingly, after buying, Premium Edition now only shows -50%, screenshot:

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same here, wish i bought the forza 5 + motorsport premium bundle instead for extra savings xD

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So I bought it and I was charged what was shown at -65%.

[edit] I bought Premium Edition but I'm still missing 14 DLCs, ffs

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Curious which currency is this if you don't mind sharing?

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PLN

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Interesting.
btw I can confirm what you deduced earlier: The price in the store shows 65% as well off for me because I already own FH4 Ultimate

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Thanks. It's the only plausible explanation given that some people see -50% and some -65%.
BTW after buying FH5 I can still see -65% on Motorsport, but can't buy the FH5+FM bundle any more (only as a gift and with a lower discount). I don't think I'm missing much, though, as per my understanding FM has all the worst parts of FH (racing) without all the best parts (free roaming and challenges). :D

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Yeah :) and the review % shows it!

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still missing 14 DLCs

Which ones are missing?

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Thanks! For some reason I was assuming, the Car Pass at least had all the car packs. Of course it doesn't. I'll wait for the Ultimate Edition. ^^

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We'll never learn, will we?

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treasure map and all car packs released after game were never part of any editions, but it includes both dlc with new areas

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That is really scummy, Microsoft doesn't need to do stuff like this.

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They do show as 65% off for me here in the States. I do wonder if 5 will drop even further and get a delisting announcement soon-ish.

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I guess it should drop to -80% before delisting like FH4, but... with FH4 I bough it at -80%, however I didn't manage to get the last two or three achievements that required active online events (festival playlist or some such), so I'm pretty bummed. At the same time I loved the game, spending over 200h in it, so I reckoned it won't hurt to buy FH5 a bit earlier even if I need to spend slightly more.

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It’s because you own Forza Horizon 4

I can’t find the specific data to prove this on SteamDB but I checked the price on my main with it, and an account without it. Without it shows -50%

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Thanks, edited the title.

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I just bought it less than a month ago for 50% off smh

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Is it still possible to transfer the MS Store version save to Steam ?

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They will eventually go to 80% when license expire :D or not this time?

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It likely will, but it probably won't expire for another year or so. Depends on if someone wants to wait that long.

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59,48€ for both Premium editions is appealing... I'll have to think it over the next couple of days as it's still a big purchase

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For me the decision was easy: first is what I wrote above, and second is that despite both premium editions costing 99.99 euro, FM is 25% more expensive than FH5 in PLN price, which is quite ridiculous. However for you the price is "fair", so the decision boils down to whether you think you'll enjoy a racing game minus free roaming etc. Because visually it's undeniably stunning and probably driving feels great as well.

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I think I would enjoy a racing game a bit closer to a simulator like Motorsport aims to be. The issue I'm seeing in your thread is that many DLCs are not included and it may be best to wait for an Ultimate edition. Adding to that the fact that I haven't finished FH4 yet, I probably will save the 60€ for now.

Completely unfair that Motorsport costs more than Horizon 5 in Poland :(

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I'm not so sure there will ever be an ultimate edition. FH4 at the time of unlisting had 8 DLCs that were not a part of any package and consequently I ended up missing them as well:
Forza Horizon 4: Hot Wheels™ Legends Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4 Open Top Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4 Japanese Heroes Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: British Sports Car Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Any Terrain Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: High Performance Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Icons Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Treasure Map

BTW, what I bought was ironically Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition ;-)

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I own FH 4 UE too and i do not own these dlc as well but in game it says i own them so you have them in game but not on steam.

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I'm 100% sure I don't have these hot wheels dlc cars in-game, not sure about the rest.

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Sorry my bad, that hot wheels expansion was delisted earlier than fh4 i do not have it either.

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Thanks for the info. I saw it was on sale at the usual price but I didn't see the further discount for FH4 owners.
You would think Steam would shoot you an email to let you know since they also know you own FH4 but nope.

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Agreed, I got a -50% notice from Steam (wishlist e-mail) and a day later I saw that -65% by pure chance.

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What are the chances they're delisting these after this promotion? Otherwise I can wait.

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Highly unlikely. FH4 was delisted years after release of FH5, they announced it months before and even considered achievement hunters, FH6 was only mentioned so far, no official announcement yet.

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also in these cases the delisting happens due to licenses expiring, and they released fh5 on playstation like a month ago. pretty sure they wouldn't bother with porting if the game had only one month of sales left

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I forgot about the PlayStation port. In that case I doubt FH5 will get delisted for another 2 years at least. These games only really drop down to like 65% off before the final 80% off delisting discount so I feel like if you're not willing to wait years for it to be delisted, 65% off might be as good as it gets

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Looking at FH4 https://steamdb.info/app/1293830/ it was -67% up until the delisting notice, and then -80% on the subsequent sales until it was gone.

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Good insight, I will hold off for now then, thanks!

19 hours ago
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Bought FH4 ultimate, run pretty on steam deck,,
if 5 same performace?

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not sure about Steam Deck but it runs well on Linux with the exception of the first login to microsoft account (the login window disappeared and I had to find it by windowing the game and alt-tabbing, so it might be a problem on steam deck, maybe run it in desktop mode first and then it will be fine?).

It's always a good idea to ckeck here as well: https://www.protondb.com/app/1551360?device=steamDeck

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By the way, what are the chances of the summer sale reducing the price even lower than 65%? Just curious since I am considering the FH5+FM Premium pack and the summer sale is only a couple weeks away. Thanks!

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The promo ends June 16th and summer sale starts June 26th; if you refrain from playing, you can still refund it within two weeks from purchasing.

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Probably a low chance. However, do note that the premium bundle is fairly recent, it came out in April and they can always take the bundle off of the store

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