Thanks. It's the only plausible explanation given that some people see -50% and some -65%.
BTW after buying FH5 I can still see -65% on Motorsport, but can't buy the FH5+FM bundle any more (only as a gift and with a lower discount). I don't think I'm missing much, though, as per my understanding FM has all the worst parts of FH (racing) without all the best parts (free roaming and challenges). :D
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All the Screw-The-Premium-Edition-Buyers-Editon DLCs: https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/48752/Forza_Horizon_5_Ultimate_Car_Pack_Collection/
plus the treasure map: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1613285/Forza_Horizon_5_Treasure_Map
and this little whatever-it-is: https://steamdb.info/app/2111240/
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treasure map and all car packs released after game were never part of any editions, but it includes both dlc with new areas
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They do show as 65% off for me here in the States. I do wonder if 5 will drop even further and get a delisting announcement soon-ish.
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I guess it should drop to -80% before delisting like FH4, but... with FH4 I bough it at -80%, however I didn't manage to get the last two or three achievements that required active online events (festival playlist or some such), so I'm pretty bummed. At the same time I loved the game, spending over 200h in it, so I reckoned it won't hurt to buy FH5 a bit earlier even if I need to spend slightly more.
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For me the decision was easy: first is what I wrote above, and second is that despite both premium editions costing 99.99 euro, FM is 25% more expensive than FH5 in PLN price, which is quite ridiculous. However for you the price is "fair", so the decision boils down to whether you think you'll enjoy a racing game minus free roaming etc. Because visually it's undeniably stunning and probably driving feels great as well.
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I think I would enjoy a racing game a bit closer to a simulator like Motorsport aims to be. The issue I'm seeing in your thread is that many DLCs are not included and it may be best to wait for an Ultimate edition. Adding to that the fact that I haven't finished FH4 yet, I probably will save the 60€ for now.
Completely unfair that Motorsport costs more than Horizon 5 in Poland :(
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I'm not so sure there will ever be an ultimate edition. FH4 at the time of unlisting had 8 DLCs that were not a part of any package and consequently I ended up missing them as well:
Forza Horizon 4: Hot Wheels™ Legends Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4 Open Top Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4 Japanese Heroes Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: British Sports Car Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Any Terrain Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: High Performance Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Icons Car Pack
Forza Horizon 4: Treasure Map
BTW, what I bought was ironically Forza Horizon 4 Ultimate Edition ;-)
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I forgot about the PlayStation port. In that case I doubt FH5 will get delisted for another 2 years at least. These games only really drop down to like 65% off before the final 80% off delisting discount so I feel like if you're not willing to wait years for it to be delisted, 65% off might be as good as it gets
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Looking at FH4 https://steamdb.info/app/1293830/ it was -67% up until the delisting notice, and then -80% on the subsequent sales until it was gone.
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not sure about Steam Deck but it runs well on Linux with the exception of the first login to microsoft account (the login window disappeared and I had to find it by windowing the game and alt-tabbing, so it might be a problem on steam deck, maybe run it in desktop mode first and then it will be fine?).
It's always a good idea to ckeck here as well: https://www.protondb.com/app/1551360?device=steamDeck
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1551360/Forza_Horizon_5/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2440510/Forza_Motorsport/
both games and all packages are discounted -65%
Thing is, steam search and steamdb show only -50%, but the store page clearly shows -65%
So there's an error in one of these places, hard to tell which one...
I think I'll go for FH5 Premium edition.
[edit] Confirmed in the comments the deeper discount is for FH4 owners.
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