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VR really needs games to run at a consistent 90 fps or higher to avoid causing motion sickness, and your RAM speed will probably result in large framerate fluctuations. Unfortunately there's no good way to upgrade that without building a new PC, DDR2 is just way too old atp.

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If you go with Dell, pay attention to the power supply. I've priced a few Dell machines over the years, and some have seemed like great deals, but the power supply was like 350W. So you can upgrade some parts to make it more of a gaming machine...but the PSU isn't scaling with the other parts.

I called Dell once to ask about the option to select a different PSU, and they said "we can't upgrade it, there is only one option." Not sure if that's still the case, just something to be aware of.

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the weakest point here is RAM, yes, so you'll have to change Motherboard, RAM and processor.

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As far as VR goes another point to consider is your GPU, a 970 was the minimum requirement and that was at launch. As devs start getting a better idea of what they can do and start pushing out more demanding games cards on the minimum end of the requirements may struggle to hold up. I don't know how much of an issue this actually is at present but its definitely something to consider as I've seen quite a few posts in places where people have suggested something more powerful than than a 970 for VR systems.

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Do you have some source/link for that? RAM speed have hardly any effect, ever.

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Depends on the platform and overall setup. Ryzen and non-dedicated GPUs (iGPUs / APUs) can most certainly be affected by RAM speed. Intel CPUs are much less affected, and in general if you look up benchmarks you'll see the average framerate differences are negligible, but that's only counting average and max framerates. Framerate consistency wont necessarily be reflected by average/max framerate statistics, the same way that micro stutter (often found on SLI setups) wont necessarily be.

As for sources, that's tough because this comes from my own firsthand experience. Even if I dug around to find benchmarks using older RAM and a newer GPU, performance variances could be dismissed as being the fault of the CPU. OP is in an unusual spot where he wants to game using an older multi-CPU workstation with slow ram but a fast GPU. I don't think I can find online framrate timings with modern games using a system comparable to his. But I do believe I am correct in that RAM that's about 1/4 the speed found in a modern system will have an impact.

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non-dedicated GPUs

Of-course because any system ram is far too slow for GPUs.
But that is not relevant here.

Ryzen

Checked some benchmark, few percent and up to max 10%, isn't what I consider much.

RAM that's about 1/4 the speed found in a modern system will have an impact.

Whether games need more than a few GB/s there is the real question and most often the answer is no.
Impact of ram was always negligible even with big mhz differences.

While a full platform upgrade certainly would deliver better overall results.

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Whether they 'need' the extra speed is subjective in this case, because we're talking about preventing someone getting sick from potentially minor and inconsistent framerate fluctuations. Not about how nice the benchmark numbers look.

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I agree, you are quite spot on about specs. One thing to note with VR is that it depends entirely on the person. Some people can't tolerate it no matter the frame rate, other get motion sick from the controls. I don't think the framerate is the biggest factor here, the game being played is also kind of relevant. The choice of art style an overall feeling might have bigger positive or negative impact than framerate (in my experience).
If OP plans to develop Vr games probably the stronger the better, but these kind of games/experiences are more subjective, I think.

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you could plan on upgrading to ddr3-4. new ram, motherboard and cpu.
gpu still looks good.
not sure about the psu since it's probably old, unless you upgraded it?

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This Xeon is 2010 and gtx 970 is 2014, how can this be a "9 year old pc"? No bottlenecks in the near future, I suppose this processor can work ok with 1080. I like your idea about SSD Raid, that will shorten every load time.

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perhaps, but the Dell Precision T5400 was launched in 2007 first - so maybe they upgraded the processor etc... or that was the version they ordered a year after first build

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so basically - his case is 9 years old and he upgraded almost everything important =))

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not entirely impossible - but the T5400 did come with a Xeon all those years ago :)
http://www.dailytech.com/Dell+Launches+Precision+T5400+T7400+Workstations/article9786.htm
not sure about that exact processor - but the board could take a later one so prob no need to upgrade that - but who knows - I was just indicating that the computer named did indeed come from 10 years ago - so yes 9 years is about right :)

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Yeah, I figured that out =)

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Ah, now I understand your concern. Then I hope someone else will say something useful about that, cause idk =))

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SSD will actually most noticeably improve the perceived performance (and no need for raid then too).

If anything then the GPU will limit the needed 90fps, even if a 970 isn't slow at all otherwise.

I suppose overclocking the CPU isn't possible?

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SSD Raid 0 will give even faster load times.

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Not really, no. Also not worth fiddling with extra drivers and increased fault risk.

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I was wrong about raid, yes =)

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Nah, a fast NVMe SSD will be almost always bottlenecked by the CPU.

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Multipliers are usually CPU locked either-way, you need to up the baseclock/fsb, but server parts aren't supporting that often.

crazy customization of the system options and expandability

like what? Except the dual-CPUs it seems worse all around compared to a normal pc. I got my 8 year old i7-920 from 2.7 to 3.61ghz, a 30+% improvement which made it still suitable for near everything.

Are you requiring those 2 CPUs for anything demanding like rendering?

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Question was if you are actually using 8 cores, otherwise not really worth sacrificing overclocking for it.

A good case can provide similar. If you have the money, then yes go for a new rig, but I'd advise against server variants this time.

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The 0 in RAID 0 is the number of files you'll get back if anything ever goes wrong with that setup.

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LOL, that's a funny (yet true) statement! :) Next wipe, I'll go Raid 1, and lose half the space but gain the redundancy.

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or go raid 1+0 and lose money on getting redundancy =)

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The optimal configuration is RAID5 with 3 disks.

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The ram is the biggest bottleneck. if you are ok on playing on medium settings on games you dont need to upgrade your gpu. if you play simulation games which need more ram power i can recommend you to buy ddr4 3200mhz sticks. but the prices are really high atm for ram.

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