Which type of "smartphone" do you prefer?
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I have had Android phones for a long time now, and will continue to do so. Although, as mobile processors become more powerful and efficient, I would greatly consider switching to Windows. Acer recently announced Jade Primo http://www.cnet.com/products/acer-jade-primo/ which is approaching what I would like to see. Once phones reach laptop performance, I will have no problem switching to Windows, so that I can have a unified experience.
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I have both Android and WP, and Android is far better IMHO...
Windows is better in using RAM, though... And if you need it just for basic tasks (calling/messaging), then you can go with it also, easily...
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you have to root an Android too and you can brick it as well
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No, you don't. You can't do anything outside of Apple's rules on an iPhone without jailbraking it. But you can on a Android, just not absolutely everything. Also Nexus devices are rooted already.
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That's not true, I have a nexus and I had to root it personally.
Changing a launcher or install a cracked apk isn't exactly "freedom", simply means that android is more permissive, above all with third-party apps and that it's both nice and bad.
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Unless you want to make changes deep in the bowels of the OS, there is no need to root your phone. What did you needed to do that required rooting?
Also, most of what you get from jailbreaking and iPhone, Android can do out of the box. And changing the launcher or installing an APK from an alternative source (not cracked, just think about Amazon's app store) is definitely more freedom than what Apple allows. Heck, it took years before Apple simply allowed users to change the wallpaper on their phones.
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I like to experiment :>
changed rom + custom kernel (better battery performance + touch to wake the device), stock android is ugly :c
For the alternative source... well for the user is funny... but... piracy, piracy everywhere.
I don't know a single guy who bought an app, but I know a lot of people who downloaded an apk from random sites...
For security and for devs' pockets it's not that awesome
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Of course, if you want to experiment with custom roms and kernels, root is required. But that's something that you can't do even on a jailbroken iPhone so don't go comparing rooting to jailbreaking. Jailbreaking an iPhone merely puts you on par with Android. And let's be honest, most people do it to pirate their apps anyway. I think I've only seen one person with a jailbroken phone not doing it to pirate stuff.
While I've pirated a few things in the beginning, just like used to do on PC, I haven't done it in years. All my apps and games are legally bought.
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You can install apps from other sources without rooting....you just have to check the box to over ride installing only trusted sources.
The big reason for rooting is more control over the os period or if you want to pirate ...but if you root you can do custom roms which can allow you to get rid of bloatware and what not.
Though rooting is not advised unless you really need it,as it voids warranty and they will know you rooted even if you go back to stock.And there is the risk of a brick even if it is small.
But over all Android is the better choice if you want more control over the OS and what you can do with it but for gaming Apple does have it beat..in most cases unless you have like a Nvidia Shield
So in the end you have two choices,more control over os and what not,or Apple with closed os and no options to expand memory other then upgrading your device though they do games better and have some apps that android does not.
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There is no need to root if you want to pirate. Pirated APK will load just fine on any device where you allowed apps from non trusted sources. (Same goes if you want to extract a game you downloaded to copy it on a different device. No root required.)
It's also a common misconception that you need to root your device to install a custom ROM. Normally, you only have to unlock the bootloader and maybe install some custom recovery. On most devices it can be done without rooting. (Of course, most custom ROM will come with root access though.)
I used to root my devices to install some extra tidbits at the OS level (like an OpenGL driver allowing me to play nVidia exclusive titles on a non-Tegra phone) and do my daily backup, but I have yet to root my current device and I don't feel like I'm missing out much.
As for games, except for some exclusives, I have found things to be very similar on both platforms except for a few poorly optimized game here and there. Of course, that's when using an high-end Android device. Don't try to pit an entry-level Android phone against an iPhone (since Apple only cater to the high-end) and expect the same level of performance.
Outside of games, Android definitely has the upper hand in the number of useful apps. The low barrier of entry and the openness of the OS allows for tools developers to do wonders on Android. There's a reason you won't find anything close to Automate-It on iOS, since such apps are impossible to build in Apple's walled garden.
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To add to that, there's a lot less need to root an Android device. You get a lot more freedom in general. You can install apps from any source and the Google Play store is a lot less restrictive (has all the emulators you need!). Root is really only needed for some special things. Off of the top of my head, uninstalling the crapware that the cellular provider forces on your phone, modifying the OS functionality in a non-trivial way (like installing an alternate bluetooth stack for extended compatibility), or accessing an application's private storage (for backing up your apps completely).
I haven't rooted my Android phone because of warranty concerns, but there's been very little I've been unpleased with in comparison to my iPod touch I used before I had a smartphone. The restrictions are also warranted, as any app having too much access or control could compromise your security. In comparison, people had to do silly workarounds like getting devices to interface with the microphone input of the iPhone because Apple restricted what kind of devices it could pair with on Bluetooth.
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i got an iphone 5c from my brother a few months ago, and i had no issues with it.
i'm not really into "brand battles", i don't care if it's apple, samsung or microsoft as long as it does its job.
and since i barely use it to make calls/play games/browse internet, i'm ok with it. :3
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but why you pay more for something that is not better? o.o
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Why is not better ? comparing hw with totally different OS is... not... that... ok :\
iOS is faster than Android, so it needs less resources to run
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they are the same OS, both have kernel linux... so again, if you just want to call, play some game and browse internet, why you want to pay 500โฌ?
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Well it's not the same, iOS runs in Objective C that's faster than Java, Android uses a VM that's not really awesome even if at the end of the day, it's been optimized.
But imho the bigger problem is that android is amateurish (i'm not considering the OS per se) it's true that android has 999k of apps but it's true that tons of those apps are amateurish, so, you'll device will need more power (and sadly I'm not considering only "indie" apps), fragmentation doesn't help tho
if you just want to call, play some game and browse internet
there are a lot of lumia that for 100โฌ are good enough (seriously, lumia in the low-entry level is a fucking king)
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yeah, thats my point, people that spend more than 100โฌ to just use whatasup (or whatever is the name, i dont use it xD) , make tweets, look facebook and play clash of clans (again i dont know the name, i dont play it) are just stupid :p
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Smartphone as a status symbol, it doesn't matter if iPhone or the last Sony\Samsung\whatever
a lot of people buy to show the latest expensive toy, not to use it.
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yeah, e-penis everywhere T.T later they complain because suddenly all their naked pics are on the cloud xDDDD
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You can run ARM ASM, C, etc. on Android devices to a fair extent, not that many developers do. Some 3D engines, software video decoders, and other non-flappy-bird-ripoff apps do. Though as you've said, the diversity of hardware makes it less than trivial (MX Player has multiple decoder packages optimized for different ARM processors).
One thing I do like about Android is that you can download the SDK and develop to your heart's content whereas Apple charges $100 a year for dev tools. That probably has a lot to do with the sheer volume of crapware on the market, but I prefer the free and open approach. I've even dabbled with the Android SDK a bit myself.
But yeah, at the end of the day most people don't care about that. They just want to browse the internet, play Candy Crush, maybe even occasionally make a call on their phone, which they can do with either.
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Actually, Android is written in C/C++, although most of the UI has been done in Java. Developers have the choice of building their app with Java (universal app that will run on any current and future hardware combination) or with C++ (more optimized but need a separate build for each architecture, ARM, x86, MIPS, 32-bit, 64-bit)
The reason there's more "amateur" apps on Android is because you can freely develop for it, just like on Windows. I can have fun developing and testing my apps on my phone at no cost. If I wanted to do the same on iOS, I would need to purchase a Mac and up until recently you needed to give Apple $100/year just to be able to run your test app on your phone.
Also, as a software developer, I can tell you that the fragmentation "problem" is a lot worse on iOS than on Android. Android has been designed from the ground up to run on various hardware, at various resolutions. Every time Apple releases a new device, some hacks have to be put in place to support the new device resolution because there's no API at the OS level that you can call to get the capabilities of the current device and automatically adapt to it.
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thief :o was doing a general comment, tell that to your brother from me :p
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I prefer Android while the rest of my family uses iPhones. Bigger screen for the most part, though I find iPhone's ui annoying to use. Plus, there is Amazon freebies and cheap mobile games from humble for Andriod users :D.
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iPhone
and I have a Nexus 5
and I never had an iPhone
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you should just try for yourself. It's more a matter of what you prefer than what the most prefer. Some can't stand iPhone (that's my case) but that doesn't make them bad. Even more if you get one for free, it's probably a good deal since part of my iPhone hate is their ridiculous pricing (it's not the only part).
If i were you, i would try both phone to see what fit you the best.
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Both systems have their plus... but if Andoid, never buy lowed. I recommend 2+GB RAM.
iP is also good, but Andoid is bigger "toy" :) But if you jailbreak your iP, you can have toy too.
If someone give me choice free iP or Android. I choose iP because already own high-end Andoid phone :D and if i have empty hands i choose Android agin >because more apps that i like/use every day. (also more cracked apps)
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My choice is with Android all the way.
Using an iPhone is like being on house arrest. You can do whatever you want as long as you don't try to leave the golden cage.
Not only does Android offers you more in term of customization, it allows you to get your apps from any source you want right out of the box. (Like all those Humble bundles) And when you're ready to change phone, you have a wide choice of manufacturers to choose from without losing anything you might have purchased.
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Depends, since Androids have a very large variety of brands and "classes".
If guaranteed a good brand and price class, Android, hands down, no contest.
If not, iPhones guarantee some degree of quality. Also, the limited customization options may be "better" for smartphone newbs.
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If your choice is only between these two platforms, then you must ask yourself one question.
Because we are in a forum dedicated to gaming, so the one is do you plan to play mobile games? If the answer is yes, then the iphone is your choice.
However, if you do not care much about mobile games - get Android device - but not cheapest - at least 2 GB Ram.
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56 to 9 in favour of Android right now? I really didn't expect it to be so lopsided.
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Totally expected android dominates the market.
Apple Is Losing The War To Android
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It's funny looking at that graph today and remembering that before the first iPhone came out, Microsoft was the king of touch-screen smartphones with roughly 50% market share.
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Things change, just see what happened to Nokia. But I can not understand what you mean that Microsoft were king of the mobile market?
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Windows Mobile was the most used OS for smartphones back then, with Symbian and Blackberry battling for second place. I still have my old 2007 HTC touch somewhere, sporting Windows Mobile 6.1.
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Not sure that it applies to the whole world. I think that Microsoft had around 50% market share in the US in 2007 and it was actually their best achievement. And although half of the market, then the number of sold devices can not be compared with what Google achieved.
Of course no one can be compared with their ability, see just how managed to convert one of the most secure operating systems - Linux - in a complete joke in terms of security. Virtually any application and game, paid or free, is malware.
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I'm not sure where you got that idea, but there's virtually no malware on Android. Only a handful of APK from shady sites carry malware, and that malware doesn't run at system level unless the user has rooted and granted permission to the app. Also, it's been proven over and over that Linux is far from being the most secure OS. It's just such a small user base that there's little interest to hack at it. Recent security reports places it third in term of vulnerabilities, right behind Mac OS X and iOS.
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You look at things literally, and I did not mean in that sense.
Much of applications and games that we install have access to device ID, telephone number, numbers you call, bookmarks and many others -and to me this is malware.
And yes,Linux is a secure operating system not because being used by a few people. Just ask yourself why almost all the servers and critical systems in the world use Linux and not Windows.
And finally do you know what is BSD, I think not. Because if you knew you would not put the Mac OS in the opposite camp.
Top 10 Most Secure Operating Systems
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Unless an app actually does something with the data, you can't consider it as malware just because it could. Do you consider every single piece of Windows software as malware since they have access to your entire system? Permissions have become more granular in recent versions of Android but some lazy developers are just making broad requests without checking what they actually need. (Or using frameworks like Unity which requests a bunch of non-required permissions.) Google has decided to tackle the problem in a different way on Android M by letting the user confirm or decline individual permissions when the app initiates an action that requires them.
That being said, I had a quick look at the permissions from various apps and beside the "read phone status and identity" which games require to be able to automatically pause when you receive a phone call, in 63 apps I found 3 that had questionable permissions. Number, calls, bookmark, like you mention, nothing had access to that beside my dialer, messenging applications and Automate-It. (for obvious reasons) You might be blowing this a bit out of proportion... that or you need to stop getting you apps from shady websites. ;)
It would seem that security experts don't see eye to eye on what OS is most secure:
Most vulnerable operating systems and applications in 2014
I know what BSD is and that originally Darwin was based on it, even though OSX doesn't share much code with it anymore, since most of the kernel have been rewritten for increased modularity. They don't have that much in common anymore except for a common ancestor.
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Surely you are right, some of developers are lazy and let things by "default".But most certainly gather this information for what purposes only they know.
Also I do not use "shady websites", and practically do not have many apps and games.
But I looked at a random game M&M Clash of Heroes, the game was made by a large developer, so that they hardly leave things by default. And what we see among normals permissions, we see things as device ID, gps, Network - Mac and IP addresses, installed applications, telephone number, numbers you call and shell access.
And I even paid to Ubisoft almost 6 euros to be able to collect my personal information and use it for who knows what. Well,you're right, this is worse than malware.
Of course ะตxperts have different opinions. We are all people, and like you and me, also have different opinions on the issue. Yet you know that whether a system is safe or not, is not simply the number of vulnerabilities. The key is how quickly is respond and are removed.
Regarding your last paragraph, Mac OS X and BSD are related. Although they have different kernels, they share a common ancestor and significant userland code. But perhaps most important is that even OS X 10.10 Yosemite continues to be UNIX 03 system.
So they are still continuing to share code, including with FreeBSD and vice versa, and of course other Open Source projects.
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Android, because IOS is very uncomfortable, too much stupid shit about putting your password everywhere, tons of incompatibility, etc
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It depends.
All the Apple hate is unjustified. Apple has a lot of nice stuff, definitely expensive, probably not the best value\ratio, but it's totally wrong say that iPhones or iPads are "bad"
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Iphone for uniformity and ease of use. If you're not going to root, customize, (all the things android users all seem to parrot on about) etc etc, iphone is just really easy to use.
I use an android and iphone (might be getting a windows phone too) but I've found using an iphone simply easier.
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Android of course, just because i feel comfortable using it.
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Depends on what iPhone you will get.
If it's brand new iPhone (like 6 / 6+) go for it. You will barely get support of it's software (iOS) for the upcoming 4 years.
If it's iPhone 6 lower, you will only get 1 to 2 upcoming years of support, and stucked at some version of iOS.
Some new iOS Apps may require new version of iOS, which if you stuck at some version, your Phone is going to be useless.
That's the only negative side of iPhone from my point of view. Since my iPhone 4 lasts about ~5 years & counting and now stuck on iOS 7.
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I would have gone for the iphone. But I dont give a shit about apps or games on phones. I only use them to make calls or texts. And I have had both Iphone and Android and the iphone was faster and easier to use.
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It really matters on Which Android phone and which iPhone you might be able to get. I've used both. I am a huge android fan, but I'm currently a traitor and using an iPhone.
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While I have no problem continuing to use my "dumb phone," I am in the position of having friends and family offering me hand-me-down phones as they outgrow their :"smart phones." This brings up something of a dilemma, however. Which path should I go down? So, since there are probably some of you who have experience with both styles of phone, iPhone and Android, I thought I would ask you all. If you could get either an Android phone or an iPhone for free, which one would you pick and why? I'm looking for the benefits and drawbacks of each.
Edit: I play games on my computer, so I have no reason to play them on my phone. I might use the camera (rarely), and I will probably use the email and texting. I don't use Twitter or Facebook or any of that social media stuff. As for other "apps," I have no idea what's out there.
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