We've needed better regional settings forever. We got some basic settings after previous trade/gift restrictions on Steam.

After the recent gifting changes the current settings again became woefully inadequate. Now with the mass of restrictions on everything coming from Humble which is a massive portion of the sites giveaways improved settings are an absolute must.

I'm not going to give suggestions for implementation as they've already been given, I'm just raising the issue again.

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Agreed

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I'm not going to give suggestions for implementation as they've already been given, I'm just raising the issue again.

I agree with you contentually, but why not bump the not so old threads with suggestions then again?

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Because those threads haven't yet provided a resolution to the situation. A lot of people will see an old thread bumped and just ignore it. This is an issue that needs to be raised repeatedly until its resolved.

A few years ago the only edge cases were a few US only keys and a few games that couldn't be redeemed in Germany/Australia/Japan. These exceptions were easy enough to handle with a statement on the giveaway. In fact these giveaways were explicitly allowed and it was really down to the entrants to know what wasn't available in their region.

Now though with all the gifting issues i.e. Russia can't gift to CIS, Brazil can't gift to South America; and the variety of regions on the last few Humble offerings including ones that don't match the standard regions (not that the site even offers all the standard regions) it's becoming increasingly difficult to use the site. Entrants can't be expected to check which region every giveaway creator is from and even if they did you don't know whether said creator purchased the bundle with a VPN to get a different set of keys. There's also the fact that Humble only list restrictions when generating a link and not when generating a key. A lot of other sites don't give you that information at all.

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Have you seen this discussion?

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Yes, and that's probably the method I'd go with myself but I explained in the previous comment why I didn't simply bump an existing post.

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Sure, I don't blame you for opening another thread if you feel it needs to be raised repeatedly until resolved. And I know it can be frustrating (especially when so many don't read descriptions). You also said:

Because those threads haven't yet provided a resolution to the situation

Which I read as having not provided a potential resolution. I think that thread is pretty succinct so I feel there is a resolution, it just hasn't been implemented :)

I'm sure there is a lot of back-end work that needs to be done (or is being done?), along with weighing how it may change SG from a mostly global community.

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What I meant was that they haven't lead to the situation being resolved. They absolutely have provided potential solutions

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You can still link to them in your thread.

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I don't know what the solution is. I can only speak from my own point of view. I saw the new humble bundle earlier and I would have grabbed it for the few games that I wanted and made giveaways with the rest - except I saw it was Deep Silver and knew it would come with a bunch of region restrictions that I couldn't match with the current giveaway options and I didn't want the hassle. Good thing or bad thing for the site?

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The work it would take to implement new options whether they be single choice like we have now or multiple choice which is what we really need is almost certainly less in the long run than the work required from support to deal with re-rolls and what have you.

Some might argue it wouldn't be worth the extra server load and I'll admit I have no idea how big an impact that would be but this isn't just a QoL change it's core site functionality.

EDIT: 2 of the 7 giveaways i can see for Mighty No. 9 list restrictions. One of them lists the countries in full whilst the other just gives the country codes. And honestly the following is just a mess and uncomfortable to read.

AD AI AL AT AX BA BE BG BM BQ CH CS CY CZ DE DK EE ES FI FK FO FR GB GE GF GG GI GP GR GS HR HU IE IO IS IT JE KY LI LT LU LV MC MK MQ MS MT NL NO PL PN PT RE RO SE SH SI SJ SK SM TC TR VA VG YT

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That is beyond my pay grade - I'm just giving my opinion. But certainly region restrictions seem to be becoming more of an issue. I don't know why given that nobody seems to be getting humble bundles cheaper than anybody else so it isn't like anybody is using them to buy cheap games and then trade them to other regions that would have had to pay more...

RETURN EDIT: The humble region restriction info is bullshit based on the Capcom bundle - it didn't match the actual restrictions for the keys at all.

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The Capcom ones may be but Deep Silver are well know for their regional bullshittery even predating all the restrictions on Steam they were one of the few devs that used US only keys (back when Amazon actually had deals)

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No - Deep Silver region restrictions are indeed bullshit. I'm in the EU and I'm used to stuff I buy being ROW (presumably as I pay more than nearly anyone else so I'm hardly trying to sell games to people on the cheap) but Deep Silver have proven themselves to have very different ideas in the past...

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Yeah, agreed that the site could use much better region-restriction options.

With the recent Humble bundles, my plan is to just to do GAs for North America only, because the site doesn't give me options to make GAs that truly reflect the region locks for the games. If I could choose multiple regions, that would be helpful. If I could choose region(s) that were not valid, that would be helpful.

The current option (select a single valid region) just doesn't match up with the current reality of PC gaming.

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North America (Canada, United States) gives you around 200,000 possible entrants. Those who have EU keys have a choice of using Germany (~50,000 users) or Poland (~60,000 users), Germany often isn't a viable choice as the games in question often can't be redeemed there. Which leaves you with Poland, meaning the 50,000 German users can't access the giveaway nor can the other 100,000+ users from the other countries that make up Europe. On the other hand Poland is also sometimes an invalid choice as some companies still lump them into RHCP or something similar.

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I always make 1 hour level 5 public GA and hopes for the best with those giveaways from Deep Silver. Have worked out so far :)

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