Everyone needs to chill the fuck out, if some of the people in this thread where parts of a power plant they would be the over-reactors.
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OMG THIS GUY DISAGREED WITH ME. MUST BE PERSONAL. LET ME QQ MORE ON THE INTERNET, DESPITE ME BEING WRONG IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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I dont know if people have told you this before, but you need to shut up from time to time.
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[FINAL EDIT]
This will be my final edit to this thread, which will hopefully put this whole ugly buisness to rest and help some
people learn an important lesson.
To all of you who are confused. Originally, I posted a message here on the public forum asking to be contacted by people who are interested to help me brainstorm new ideas for a new scamless group that actually works, which would've hopefully benefited the trading and gifting community here.
I did not post any in depth details regarding my idea, since I didn't want it to stir...well..the useless drama it had stirred anyways. Basicly all I posted were a few lines thanking the community for being the awesome community that it was, followed by a basic outline of my vision for the group:
To sum it up - a trade group which will hopefully lead to big value present giveaways on the steam gifts site.
I deliberately did not get into minor details, which were suppoesed to have been discussed with said "Brainstorm group" in private. Which basicly means that people did not really know, in fact, what they were arguing against. But I guess for those who want to argue for the sake of arguing, it does not matter.
The first wave of comments I got within the first few hours was overwhelmingly hurtful, filled with nothing but insolent, arrogant responses, attacking me on personal levels in various ways and forms. I found myself being dragged into off topic arguments, trying to explain my good intentions and fend off the wave of malicious personal attacks aimed to hurt and hit below the belt and call other "trolls" to jump onto the pissing wagon.
I'm sorry to admit I fell into their trap. It just got worse and worse and I found myself getting dragged further down by cheap rhetorical tricks, instead of dealing with the topic, for which the thread was created.
A very wise user explained these cheap tricks providing a link to wikipedia called argumentum ad hominem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I have learned a thing or two reading it, and hopefully will do my best to avoid being manipulated like that in the future.
Now, regarding said members, who believe they were just expressing their disagreement with the topic - If you have critisism there is proper way of expressing it and get your point across, without stirring up drama on purpose.
Read said link above (Ad hominem) - Thats NOT how you build up valid critisism, but I guess you already knew that.
And to those of you who did not know that, and do not know why you were labeled "trolls" by other members - that link will hopefully clear some issues up.
Throughout this entire argument,few members expressed their disagreement in an intelligent, constructive way, which got their point across, and who I respect for their opinion.
Regarding specific, especially insolent arrogant "trolls" - I do not need to earn your "respect", "reputation" or "permission" to do anything. Your arrogance knows no bounds.
Not all is bleak though - I was happy to see that some people eventually stood up against the wave of shameless insults and provided some moral support, while trying to get their point across in an intelligent manner.
And I think what can be learned here, is how to lead better debate ethics. Which is mainly why I post this reply, here.
As for the group - it will not be created.
For those of you who supported me, thank you for your support.
I hope we could all let this ugly incident go now.
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