That's a deep question my friend. I live for enjoying the pleasures of life. Exploring the world and experiencing what it has to offer. Traveling to new places I have never been before and meeting new people. I live for making those same people laugh and recognize me as a unique person and hopefully leaving an impact on their life in the 30 seconds that they have known me. I live for my family, who I know rely on me for many things in life. I provide as much as I am able in living :)
I am sure there was a better way to describe and relate my emotions than in that paragraph, but it's late and I'm tired :D
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At one point in your life at least, you'll share your knowledge or put it to good use to improve the world you leave behind. Knowledge is a precious thing, as it doesn't all die with you. Even something as simple as sharing information to a person in real life or online - is your knowledge being spread into the world.
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Well, I'm a university lecturer now, but even though, I can only teach one subject to the students. That is just not enough Q _ Q
I guess I will adopt some disciples, and train them like the Bookman Clan from D.Gray-man :D
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You forgot to include "supprt is sux" in the title of your discussion.
I live for the pleasure of God. My goal is to be a good servant to Him.
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No worries. God gave people the freedom to choose. Let him make his choice. It's not like he can control how anyone else thinks.
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You always impress me with your wisdom and mature way of handling things. Let's just say that I was about to tell a certain person to "fuck off", and your post stopped me. :P
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Actually, the religion of Islam prohibits such behavior. To be specific, Islamic Law (which so many condemn) dictates the following:
(As an aside, those non-Muslims living within the Islamic State (if it were to exist) have rights which are protected by said State, including those of honor, property, and blood.)
You speak out of ignorance, but I am not surprised. We live in the Age of Confusion, and the non-Muslims are fed lies about Islam on a daily basis. Simply put, the true arch-enemy of terrorism is the true Islamic State, but that State was abolished by Kamal Ataturk. In its absence, the pestilence which it kept in check for over a thousand years has grown and spread. We are all suffering the result of that evil, and those in power either fail to understand the problem or are unwilling to solve it.
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sadly, most are ignorant of Islam. that includes some of the more fanatic Islamic people...
i really think it's a beautiful religion, so sad whats going on now in the world.
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The only thing worse than ignorance is incomplete knowledge. Not only does it lead to misunderstanding, it causes the ignorant to believe they understand when they do not.
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Nothing. But then again, Muhammad (peace and blessings upon him) was neither a pedophile nor a warmonger.
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If you want to discuss Islam, leave me a message on my Steam wall and I will add you.
@ MeeMesmo: Sorry for the derailment, man. I digressed with my answer on terrorism only because the media continues its blackout on accurate information regarding Islam and Muslims. I never wanted to start a full-blown, religious discussion.
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Don't worry, this only enrich our lives as a learning, you must not be ashamed for this, people overreacting for things that they can't understand is bart of being human, the fear to the unknown, God bless you, personally i don't believe, but i don't plan to teach people the otherwise.
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My daily schedule is rather caothic nowadays and not being a native English speaker I feel more confortable to having discussions within the framework of a forum. If you would like to, make a topic on religion and I'll join the conversation there.
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lol
It seems that both of our schedules are chaotic, these days. That is why I suggested using Steam chat. It would benefit our discussion in the following ways:
If you are uncomfortable with Steam chat, I suppose we could try email. I do not wish to invade your privacy if it is not necessary, however.
Please note that my goal is to provide information, not to convince you of anything. You are quite capable of deciding for yourself what you think about Islam, but I want the information you have to be accurate. There is so much misinformation going around, these days....
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I always have respect for people who understand their religions clearly and response without overreactions. Being an Agnostic, I like to learn about religions and their histories. It is really an interesting field. Sadly, in this period of time, most people are either blind by their believes or blind to others' believes.
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The ability to tolerate contradictory points of view is a rare quality. Many people can't handle it, hence the avoidance of religious and political discussions (two topics that inspire great passion).
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I see a lot of age of confusion right here. How did Atatürk abolish an Islamic state lol? And all the Islamic states that exist are just a lie? Why they don't defend their religion? For the killing part it's not like that too but i won't be doing that here so out of topic. I just couldn't help myself cause when you call someone confused (even though he is) with such bad excuses.
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There is obviously a lot you do not understand about Islam and Islamic history, but this is not the place for a lecture. If you truly want to know the answers to your questions, leave a message on my Steam wall and I will add you for discussion.
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I am sorry but i don't have the luxury of not knowing about Islam or Islamic history. Especially when it inclueds my own nation's history and i am very very doubful about i am the one who don't understand here. I actually wonder your answers but not enough to add and talk you about it. I talked a lot of muslim and did a lot of research to have this kind of perspective. I don't know about you but every religous people can only look things from their side. Even though i say don't know about you, just like others you did it now for saying that i don't understand "my own history." So you see that's when i lost my interest on your answers. I asked the questions to make points but your answer made it clear to me that you are a common religous person. Please don't take this as an insult or anything. Religion is dogmatic itself. So i can't make a person to look my perspective of things and believe me i tried it so many times.
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It is true we don't know each other, but your postings provide clues about you. You appear to be a non-Muslim born and raised in Turkey. You know at least something about your nation's history, but it is not clear how much of what you have learned is true. (I assume you are smart enough to question what you read and hear.) Your knowledge of your country's history is most likely broader than mine, but your knowledge of Islamic history seems cursory at best. You have spent time among the Muslims, but don't seem to know basic principles about Islam. Being from Turkey, you should know at least something about Kamal Ataturk and dissolution of the Khilafah. At the very least, you should know that the Khilafah is a form of government, one that is not currently implemented by any nation or state.
Personally, I don't mind talking with you. You make a lot of generalizations that don't hold up under scrutiny (e.g. "every religious people can only look thing from their side"), but that does not mean you aren't willing to user your intellect. I do indeed have answers for all of your questions, but short answers would leave even more questions.
And I have offered no excuses. Zero. None.
Of course, if you don't want to spend the time talking with me, that's fine, too. )
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Then again i reconsider and change my attitude agaisnt you. I don't like generalizations at all but that's what end up with so surprise me pls i want to hear your answers. My English is not very good on this subject but i will try to keep up. But i can easily say that you are wrong about Mustafa Kemal Atatürk but this isn't the platform to talk about this. Actually not wrong but if understand correctly, you are choosing wrong words. So i am adding you on steam if you are still interested.
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I agree with you. It is difficult to discuss things through forum postings. Real-time chat allows us to clarify what we mean and to understand one another. Added you.
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I might be wrong, but I think these rules are related to the Muslims, not to the Dhimmi. Please englighten me, what is the punishment for apostasy by the teachings of Islam?
Why are most of the terror incidents are linked to Palestinians, Talibans, ISIL, Al-Qaeda or Boko Haram? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_July%E2%80%93December_2015
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Q1. You are correct. Those rules apply to Muslims. Non-Muslims are not expected to adhere to Islamic Law as Islam is not their religion. For example, Islam forbids a Muslim from drinking alcohol, but a non-Muslim may drink all he wants. There are some rules which do apply to non-Muslims, such as the Jizyah, but they are very few.
Q2. Your question is vague, but I will give a specific case in answer to it. If a man is a practicing Muslim, and he lives within the Islamic State (which does not currently exist), and he then announces that he apostatizes from islam, he is taken into custody by the Islamic State and advised for a period of time. If, after that, he insists upon his apostasy, he is executed by the Islamic State.
Q3. Short answer: most of the incidents in that list are from those groups by choice of the person creating the list. Using a different pool of data would have produced a different list.
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If a man is a practicing Muslim, and he lives within the Islamic State (which does not currently exist), and he then announces that he apostatizes from islam, he is taken into custody by the Islamic State and advised for a period of time. If, after that, he insists upon his apostasy, he is executed by the Islamic State.
You support THAT?
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Yes. If all five conditions are met, and the person is neither insane nor mentally incompetent, that is the ruling.
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Well, I happen to be an apostate myself. Christian apostate, as it happens, but where I'm from they're really only cosmetically different sides.
So, yeah, thanks a lot I guess. I really don't know what else to say.
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I would guess that in your case, only one of those conditions applied (the declaration of apostasy).
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Yes, two of them, in fact. But it does not matter. Nothing would be different if they did. I would switch from islam just as easily and for the same reasons as I did Christianity, and the existance of an islamic state is completely irrelevant to that decision.
So basically, you think my life should be spared... Because of a few coincidences I have no control over.
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To be frank, I doubt you really know Islam, but that point is moot. What you choose to believe is up to you.
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Well, do YOU know it? I had a higher opinion of it before being told it would kill you if you tried to leave.
That last statement is ironic, given what we've just discussed.
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I would say that I know enough to know what I do not know. I have knowledge of the Six Articles of Faith and the Five Pillars of Islam, but that is a tiny fraction of the religion. If being an Islamic Scholar were compared to having a Master's Degree, I might be considered to have passed second grade.
What is shocking to me is how many Muslims know even less than I do. P
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Wow. I didn't know you are a muslim. Beyond that, you know what you believe in. Most muslims -and I'm not talking about IS supporters, I'm even talking about those who condemns IS to damage Islam- really don't know the every aspects of what they believe and it's position in the world like what others think about it.
I wouldn't expect to see a guy like you here, or even on the internet. I'm really glad I did.
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You're absolutely right, of course. My general experience with people of all faiths is that most of them don't know very much about the religion they profess to follow. Not even atheists. People being people, however, each individual's level of practice will vary.
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Atheism is not an organized religion, and, as with all other religions, there is great variation among its adherents.
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No wonder you are confused by my reply. Your understanding of Religion is quite narrow and (basically) limited to "organized religion."
From Webster-Merriam:
religion: noun (re·li·gion \ri-ˈli-jən)
. . .
Full Definition of RELIGION
1a : the state of a religious person <a nun in her 20th year of religion>
b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 : archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
Atheism fits the 2 and 4 definitions. It also has a definite set of beliefs, accepted texts, and even some precepts. In short, Atheism has all the trappings of organized religion, up to and including a declaration of "all other faiths are false."
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Well it depends on what "religion" deffinition you will find / consider as good one. In polish national dictionary (only dictionary that is considered official) religion is described as "set of believes about existance of God or gods, origin and goal of human life, orign of world and ceremonies connected to it, moral standards and organisation forms".
So I won't agree that atheism is form of religion. Besides telling "all other faiths are false" implies that I feel that I have faith into something which is clearly false in my case. Telling that atheism is a religion is like telling that someone who doesn't collect postcards has a hobby. Because he has certain set of "believes" about uselessness of this action and he met with other people which don't collect postcards.
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Thanks, but I don't need to figure anything out. Atheism is form of religion in the same way as not riding on horse, not collecting postcards and not reading books is a hobby. Confirm that these are valid hobbies and I will confirm that atheism is a religion.
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Part of using your intellect is examining your beliefs. If you have not yet done that, you might get the ball rolling by considering this documentary. Note: be careful to distinguish between Atheism and Anti-theism.
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Yes it will. But in Islam, muslims have responsibility to learn. There is no such thing like "Ignorance is bliss.". But most muslims -or people- are unwilling to learn the religion they believe. They either are too busy or don't spare time for it. It may be enough for those who keep oneself to oneself but if they keep track of the world and their nation or encounter with new movements -like ISIS- it won't be. Because they can't distinguish the right and wrong becacuse of their ignorance. So, it's dangerous for them.
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Muslims have even less of an excuse than non-Muslims.
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What is your opinion on homosexuality? One of the statements in the Islamic Law you have above is:
"It is forbidden to commit murder (and the murderer takes all of the sins of the murdered upon his/her own soul)."
However, the Qu'ran states that:
"For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
And (implying stoning):
"And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!"
As well as a quote from "Abu Dawud":
"The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, "Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done."
I see some fairly obvious contradictions here. Did the people (prophets) quoted in the Qu'ran break an Islamic Law? If someone kills a homosexual person, do they receive the "sin of homosexuality" on them instead? Either way, this doesn't seem all that "peaceful" to me.
I do, however, recognize there are peaceful Muslims, I am by no means saying there aren't, and that IS members are essentially defying what they believe. I'm saying that there are many things that are parts of Islam that are most definitely not peaceful.
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And you are the reason 1) Blacklists are a good thing and 2) why they should stay implemented. Please do yourself a favor and do not attack other people's religions. Or at the very least, study it to a degree where you can intellectually debate the points of it without having to rely on wikipedia for your information.
Anything else makes you sound like an idiot.
Sorry for feeding the troll in advance.
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In my 26 years of life, I couldn't tell you how many countless debates and discussions I have participated in concerning different religions. With that said I couldn't agree with you more. They should be discussed and talked about, but it should be done in a manner where it doesn't come across calling someone a slave, telling them they have shackles for being a believer and sarcastically throwing out there that I hope you don't go blow yourself up. It should be done in a respectful and polite manner. If I had a issue with someone's religion you can bet I would have added said person to discuss my concerns with them instead of making a ass out of myself on a public forum.
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Blacklisting someone who has a differing opinion surely makes you an intellectual. Khalaq was not offended by my advice of good intentions, but you raging SJWs are stepping in to save the day. You might think again what makes you sound like an idiot.
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I can only hope you don't blow yourself up just to be a good servant.
This would probably make me look like an idiot
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Yeah, it was totally because you simply had a different opinion then my own and I'm sure you had nothing but the absolute best intentions at heart when you called his religion a delusion, him being a slave for believing in it and casually hoping he didn't blow himself up either. Give me a break and grow up.
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Sometimes, a person may cause offense out of ignorance, not spite. That is the time for patience so that the person may learn rather than harshness which will simply drive him away.
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That's actually not the first time I've heard that lol
Ill submit to your wisdom good sir :)
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+1 Hanlon's razor
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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Yes, I know classical Arabic. It is a requirement if you're going to study the religion. As for Farsi, the "Persian" language, I do not know it.
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This is beyond my ability to translate. but I can tell you a few things about it. It does appear to be written in Arabic rather than Farsi. The two written languages have some similarities, but they are not the same. This definitely looks like Arabic. In fact, I'm 99% sure this is Arabic poetry (which is why it is beyond me). It also appears to be very old as (what I believe to be) the letter "tha" in the third line is written in an unconventional manner and there are no diacritical marks.
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Oh, so it's Arabic actually! You've just cut my job of letter recognizing in half! =:D And no, I pretty much know the translation, it's one of Omar Khayyam's Ruba'is (in short, it's speaking of people's duality, like they are good/bad at the same time).
I just wanted to pyrograph this particular one on a wood plank and place it on wall. But it's the only image from a book that have a glossy translation (am I speaking the right term? I mean one with a line/word-to-word translation), and, as you can see, the characters are quite blurred. And it would be kinda dumb to go all the way at finding original text and then go "oh, whatever, I'll just write those letters the way I see them".
So, if you're capable to just rewrite it with text, I would be overjoyed! =:)
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let me pick this piece up " called his religion a delusion, him being a slave for believing in it " it sounds harsher without the explanation so here it goes:
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Did you know that Islam is founded on hard evidence and requires its adherents to "question everything?" In fact, the Qur'an challenges mankind to find a flaw within it.
But we continue to wander away from the topic. It would be better to discuss such things under an entirely new topic, perhaps "How Do You Define 'Religion?'"
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Any of today's so called prophets have a Messiah complex and Grandiose delusions
I wouldnt take any life advise from them
And before you say it, back then we just didnt have names for it, but that doesnt invalidate their less then optimal mind
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Since when are religions exempt from criticism? I truly think not just his, but all religion are delusion, some denominations or sects are straight out scams. But I guess you know my mind better. Friendly reminder: having a religion shouldn't grant you any privilege. If a religious can say what they believe I think I can say my toughts on the subject aswell. And yes, I hope he doesn't blow himself up, because that would be crazy. Don't you hope the same? Don't answer- that was a rhetorical question.
Please do me a favor Justin and stop being a hyper-sensitive SJW. In the end nobody would like to talk to you.
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I live because if I wouldn't live, I wouldn't be asking myself this question.
Whenever you feel that life isn't worth living, just remember - your life is not a chore, it's a privilege. Think about it, what are the chances of you existing? Life is a rare and precious thing, and that's why I live, although sometimes life seems so hard and pointless. You live for your life, because it's your most precious possession.
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I used to believe in God, so that was my reason for life, but I've lost that belief and now I don't have a reason anymore. Heres's a bloggy emo post again.
I live because living is a lot easier than killing myself. I've kinda given up on life, which leads to a passive routine life instead. Death is something I've wanted for so long but I lack the motivation to do it. Not only do I lack motivation, but also I'm scared. I'm scared of the pain, scared of it not working and me having to go back to the hospital or being left in a worse position than before such as being paralyzed or brain damaged. I also don't know whether I want to die or for my life to be better so I'm not putting effort into either fixing my life of ending it because I don't know what I want.
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I think that in fact you don't want to be dead, you want to live. You want your life to be better.
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I know your feeling. Like I know exactly what you feel. I have hards moment as well. I found something to live on, but this is difficult. I live for a friend that means alot, just found her like 6months ago. But still, there is some huge low and small high. If you need someone to talk to, feel free to add me on steam.
Death is so freaking scary, to commit suicide, you need motivation. To live, you need motivation. To wander around lifeless is so much easier. High risk, high reward but if that fail, high drop(and the drop always happen) Low risk, low reward but low drop. Safer that way
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I went through the same thing once. I'm in seminary, so I hope I found my faith again...
It's tough. It really is. People say it gets better, but I haven't seen that yet. But somehow, despite it all, I have hope. A whisper of purpose, I guess I could call it. Even if I despise myself at times, I find a way to recognize that I have a purpose. I can't see it all the time, and I'm filled with doubt, but I keep going, because I know someday I'll fulfill my purpose and I hope to do it the best I can.
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I live– nah, I exist for... I'm not so sure, really.
Thanks for the giveaway though!
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When I was a kid I used to think that I lived to be some sort of prophet, a faithful witness to God. I didn't really know the definition of a prophet, people would probably say pastor or preacher. Then, well, things got rough, and for a few years I wasn't sure why I lived. I had a few where I was convinced that I was the worst sinner alive, and that the monstrosity that was my life justified my own destruction. It only got worse as I saw more of the world and what happens in the age in which we live and I became convinced there was nothing good and nothing deserving mercy. As I saw more of the suffering and depravity of people around me, I began to lose hope and reject everything around me as anathema. I developed a rather deep case of depression, but was too afraid to tell anyone because I was afraid my story would invalidate my witness, the truth to which I still clung more out of desperation than conviction. As I struggled through that, I'm not sure how I made it, and things kind of fell apart for a bit. But, as with many in my tradition, I believed I heard a voice that was not my own consoling me. I constantly argue with myself if this was divine intervention or some part of my psyche whispering to me with hope beyond hope, but either way, it kept me going through the dark bits and I made it through, for the most part. As far as I can tell, the darkness doesn't ever really go away, and even here, in a great place surrounded by people filled with hope, I still find myself dwelling on the darkness instead of the light, but one day I know I will be free and whole again.
TL:DR; I got better.
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Sounds like an angel, to me, but only God knows. Too many people confuse ignorance with a lack of truth, these days. Just because a person doesn't know the answer to a question does not mean there isn't one. It simply means you have to seek it out.
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To maybe find a goal in life later (hope i'll do).
And apparently to be blacklisted by random people for no reason at all
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what does maximum entries: 250 mean? it will stop giving out the link after 250 people enter?
also, i live for figuring things out
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I live because I made a promise. To go into greater detail would mean sharing more than I'm comfortable with.
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The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why. –Mark Twain
To find out why.
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What do you live for, i'm just curious about this.
BTW merry christmas.
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