No, I'm not one month late with the news.

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Personally, I'm kinda puzzled about this. They were making steady money while on Steam and pulling 60k players regularly. I'm curious to see how the things will change once they're Epic exclusive.

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https://twitter.com/verge/status/1123712530227048450
"Update: While Epic’s original statement strongly hinted Rocket League would be pulled from Steam, the company now says it will announce "long-term plans" for the game in the future"


I do not understand the English language anymore.

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Epic acquires steam, now you have to download EGS to use your favorite launcher
Suck on that Valve

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No matter what or who they acquire, they will NEVER ever get 1 cent from me. PC Gaming is such a joke now thanks to epic.

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"It will continue to be supported on Steam for all existing purchasers" .... so no change for me in the near future = no reason to get crazy....
They should fight with there platforms... and I choose what (game, company, behavior...) i want to support and what not.
I don't understand all this "crazyness" about the EPIC/steam "fight".

RELAX

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Not you, not anybody can guarantee than a year from now the support for the EGS version will be the same as the support for the steam version.

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When a company say "we close our servers" you can do nothing.
At Steam happened that for me, without EPIC involved, at least 3 times that i remember direct.

You can choose with your moneypurse as you reward such stuff or not.

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Sometimes severs close down. It's part of the business.

However in this case there is a fair possibility that owners of a very succesful game will have less support, not because market reasons, but because they bought it in the "wrong" place, since obviously Epic will try to force fans to buy it again on the EGS, and will support more their own store.

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"fair possibility"

Any proof of that or just a kneejerk reaction to "Epic bad"? Cause you can't claim 'fair' on just a bizarre hunch that Epic is batshit crazy.
Extremely aggressive? Yes. Crazy? Nothing so far.

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OK, so I'll just believe Epic is going to throw a lot of money to keep in perfect condition a version of a game in a rival store. It's not "Epic Bad". It's just common sense. More support will receive the EGS version. If not, they are just stupid.

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Yes, cause it's the same damn version on both clients. Just with one purchase option available, so if you friends wants to join they need to grow through EGS. That's the whole point. That was the point of exclusives, that's the point of free giveaways.

Or are you one of those people who think Steam gives out steamkeys to developers without profit out of the goodness of their heart? Player retention is a thing, it's the thing. If they ruin the game for a large playerbase no they will not attract or recommend new players who now have to go through EGS. Not updating Steam is quite literally contrary to their entire purpose of their takeover. Doing so would be utter insanity.

So no, I won't believe they'll do utter insanity and buy this developer to shoot their own foot.

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Have you seen this cool skin in the EGS version? A pity there is no version for the Steam store version

Even itch.io version of games get updates less regularly than the steam versions, since developers have to concentrate resources with the most popular version. And in that case there is an incentive for developers to make them both the same so buyers can choose which version they want, an incentive missing in the EGS/Steam divide

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You can't bring a little store like itchio, with indie devs games...(and peanuts of earned money), in the discussion to proof something with a million dollar company and high profit games with ingame buys and many 10k's of users. Thats not only to compare apples with citrones, that is comparing apples with a house.

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Another example, Switch version of games many times have less support than other versions, and updates arrive later, like Mortal Kombat 11

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Consoles have far more rigorous QA requirements for patches, needing manual checking by MS/Sony and Nintendo. Not too big an issue for big companies, can be bad for smaller. Also they can have limitations on download size etc.

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I don't own a Switch or are interested at it. So i can't say something to it.

A lot of console versions are different to Pc versions BUT Rocket League is one of the, very few, games that are FULLY compatible between 2 consoles and the PC.
So i think they know what they do there with holding it compatible in the future too

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Rocket League on PC DOESN'T run in it's own launcher - it uses Steam, and will use EGS - and that is the REAL POSABLE ISSUE for Rocket League gamers on Steam - EGS could pull the plug on support.

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Once again, where's the evidence Epic is braindead, not just overtly aggressive?

I'm not sure what the example is for as stated by Masafor, they aren't a small indie and cross-platform literally requires the same version, so... what?

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So your examples are rigorous rules of Console network owners and the new streaming services no longer wanting to use Netflix? Yeah, need to give a bit better than that.

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Why they should support the Epic Store Version, that should be the exactly same as the Steam, the Ps4 and the other console version, more ?
All will bring them, at least, money from the skins sales and all versions will raise the player base and the worth of this game (IP).

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You seem to believe that they are mostly interested in the value of the IP. I believe they are mostly interested in promoting their own store.

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For sure they want to promote there store !... that is the reason why the buy big games and exclusives as working horses but that is normal marketing for a new shop/site/company. Each and everyone with a business make that. If you get 2 to the price of 1, 20% discount, monday cost your haircut x% lesser or whatever else.

In the cases of the Epic exclusives it is, mostly, bad made -but not this time from my point of view- and each one that don't like that behavior can say "i don't buy game X at the epic store and wait till it is at the steam store" or in this case "i buy RL now at the steam store before i get it only at the egs (or consoles)". Thats complete ok.

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Ok, let's make it simple. Copy this sentence and reply this comment, and I'll remind you in a few months:

"I believe that support for the Steam version and the EGS version of Rocket Launcher will be the same, arriving at the same time, and there won't be any EGS store exclusive DLCs or skins"

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Where is the "obviously" thing that Epic will force someone to buy it AGAIN at there store ? It give no proof for that.

Maybe they will support all versions the same, they sell Rocket League for Ps4 and a other console too -not at the steam store.... only as a hint)-. Before i don't see something changes here i am not "crazy" about normaly company stuff.

They will make the most money with the "Skins" stuff. As right now too. So a compatibility would be in there own interest.

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It's a four year old game. They are not buying the game for how much it sells, but for how much it can support the EGS store.

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I am "a bit" confused about your answer.

Sure they buy it for the name and the community.
And sure they buy it for the sells of the skins, that bring much more then the game sells itself.
Thats a normal company behavior. So where is it "bad/evil/different" in any way ?

Did you think Disney buyed Star Wars for something else ? (one of many examples)

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Using Disney is a good example.

When Disney started creating their own streaming system, I knew they would eventually pull their highly succesful shows from Netflix to weaken their competition. People told me that made no sense. Those shows brought a lot of recognition to the Marvel brand, they were very succesful, and Marvel had enough other characters to make 20 regular series.

Is there any current Marvel series on netflix?

And nobody is accusing Disney, one of the most succesful companies of the world, of being idiots.

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Yeah, Marvel really needs that. How well did Endgame again? Sure needs to get themselves out there or nobody would know them.
Once again it's apples to oranges comparrison. Netflix is a streaming service, you don't own the product. What you make it sound is Disney would go in your house and invalidate your DVD's, forcing you to rebuy them. That's how this would be.
Once again, show me where Epic is actually stupid enough that this is a "fair chance" of happening.

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Ok, let's make it simple. Copy this sentence and reply this comment, and I'll remind you in a few months:

"I believe that support for the Steam version and the EGS version of Rocket Launcher will be the same, arriving at the same time, and there won't be any EGS store exclusive DLCs or skins"

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"I believe that support for the Steam version and the EGS version of Rocket Launcher will be the same, arriving at the same time, and there won't be any EGS store exclusive DLCs or skins"

Ie.

I don't think Epic is made up of morons, just some VERY aggressive marketingpeople.

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I am no Netflix customer and i don't like, mostly, Marvel/DC stuff. So i am not able to say something to that stuff.

Only Spiderman 1, Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and Deadpool are good. And my reallife friends don't like me when i say the rest are mostly crap but exactly that i think about Marvel/DC.
Cheap stereotypes, usa propaganda from its finest, often bad actors and bad stories.

My reallife friends like how good they mostly "copied" the comics to the movies but because i don't know the comics (and never will) i don't see that. I see "only" bad movies (thats more then enough for my taste :-D giggling)

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I actually agree with you here. But I have already given up on convincing my RL friends otherwise

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They make bad(er) Star Wars movies ... Teenie friendly.
That is the reason why i don't support the new SW movies with a cinema ticket buy.
Thats it.
(and because i am not the masses it will not change much but anyway i will do it ;o) )

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I'm fairly sure we're a large portion. They think Solo was a fluke, IX will be the big eye-opener.
Or the proof you can sucker in everyone with a brand name. That would make me sad.

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New Star Wars have made me very sad already. And I have seen all the movies at opening day. :(

Incidentally, I see that you have BL me. Sorry if I was aggressive answering you.

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Totally forgot. Sorry

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Relax doesn't seem to be something used in the Epic discussion.
I really just sigh reading all these topics. So much anger and hatred and outright lies. People are really riling themselves up over the EGS far more than they should. Giant banlists made for anyone who DARES to do the crime of not having them, since that apparently is a massive offense or something.

What happened to "don't like, don't buy?"
Just use that and everything fades away quickly enough. Rather than having this massive bark but seemingly no bite.

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Yes i am very shocked since the Epic "spy" news, that were mostly complete bullshit IF you looked closer and really read the informations that were openly accessible everywhere, appeared.
Not about the fact that the people are cautious and think twice if they trust that/a company. That is understandable and, for me, in general good.
But about the way HOW people talk/write. Mostly as they give there brain to the wardrobe in exchange for torches and forks.

It is a bit as people see other facts/news then i and i am heavy confused about that behaviour.

In my eyes are a lot of it complete normaly company things and competition is, mostly, not a bad thing for the customer.
As example can steam be "forced" (to be attractive enough) to lower there, mostly high, prices a bit.

And yes i question myself too where the "you don't like it, you don't buy there" is gone.

I am sure a lot that QQ now will buy there new games at EPIC because they don't want to wait 6-12 months for the steam release.
I will wait 1 year before a game come up at the steam store without a problem. I have enough games in my backlog and i think very much at sg have that option....

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I wonder if modern social media is to blame.
So often boycots or anger/rage is voiced, but people still buy regardless of what they're saying. Not really that recent, the "boycot Call of Duty" group all playing Call of Duty on Steam comes to mind.

It gets hilarious if people want to move to the PS4 to move away from Epic exclusivity. Cause consoles, especially PS4, don't have any of those, right?
It's the reason X-Box is failing, and Microsoft is taking over companies left and right to rectify. I don't like it a bit, but that's the way the market runs, so what can we do about it?
I'm just happy enough we get Heavy Rain, Yakuza etc. on PC now. Couldn't have imagined that happening even 2 years ago.

I'm still holding off on Witcher 3 and GTA V so I'm fine here. Humble Montly got me plenty supplied and I get to play Origins now, yay. I don't see any need to play any games out-the-door, though of course companies don't want all people like me or they make no money XD

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I have more then enough games that i really want to play and haven't the health condition and/or time/energy ... and i am holding back the buy of Witcher 3 untill i get 75% (at the moment they offer max. 70%) :-D
I buy only DLCs at 66% and only switch of that rule by cheap games and Thea the Awakening that i really wanted and not got after 1 year with under 50% (and not played it enough till now to say it was worth that money^^).

Consoles were never my liked ones.
Sometimes with friends but thats it.
I got a used Xbox for free from my niche and i have not used it now 1 year :D (but maybe sometimes...^^).
I would bet i have before that a adapter for the controllers that i can use them at the PC because i played RL in the last weeks 3x with friends and 2 evenngs alone, by the friends with controller and at my home with the keyboard -the controller success was much better :-D-.

Oh and yes that companies buy other companies is normal but it give a few that buy other companies and then close it directly (Ubi is one of that asshole behavior companies) but bring out the, nearly, finished game because of that they buyed the other companie(s). My reaction on that and different negative experiences in the past with there "support", at least the french part of there support, i don't know if they have now more, it were long ago- (where i brought up the need to hire a lawyer before they were willing to delete my personal datas -3 or 4 friendly writings with them brought nothing but naming the lawyer helped much...-), lead to the result that i avoid to buy Ubi Games.
It's not a 100% thing but i clearly own much lesser of there games as it would be if they were a other company.

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I'm 90% sure that they will make Rocket League F2P and push it like Fortnite.

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LOL I was about to post something similar, so I'll just +1 your comment.
Except I'm going to go with 99% sure.

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This feels like an epic punch to the gut

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Good riddance.

Now i'm wondering how they will host players inventories, trading of said items etc.

Ah, epicshit don't have player profile, communitiy market, and even no community at all.

The joke, delightful, i hope it crashes them so hard it will serve as an example for those devs wondering about betraying their players.

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You do realise Rocket League doesn't use the Steam marketplace or inventory for it's items at all?
So... what?

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My bad about the inventory. I was persuaded to see cosmetics for it in the marketplace. Must have mistaken them for the steam sale items about RL.
Anyway, other points still stands. Shit move from both psyonix and "e" that i wont spell the name.

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This is an ingenious move by epic. Steam is a dinosaur; epic a small mammal - who will survive in the end ?

p.s. birds are useless.
p.s.s. capitalism is awesome it is how valve became a billion dollar company and gabe was a millionare from microsoft.

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Remember when the excuse was "Well, it's okay if it's a FIRST-PARTY TITLE".
Epic makes it first party by taking over the company.
Flagpole is moved.

Wow... I'm shocked. It's almost like that was an important factor all along. Who knew? Oh, everyone?

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Act dense all you want but they bought Psyonix because they needed to up their C O M P E T I T I O N from removing upcoming games to removing games that been on Steam for 4 years till now. Yeah cheer for that.

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They don't remove the game ... only the buy function at the end of the year...

If someone wants the game at steam he can buy it until then....
without a problem

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What good guys they are. What about after that. How is a MP game supposed to grow on Steam then? Where is any guarantee both versions will have same updates and future new content?

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It's not supposed to grow on Steam. It's supposed to grow on the EGS. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
Geez people, how do these simple concepts are so alien. It's market strategy 101.

And Rocket League is known for it's cross-capabilities for ages. EGS will play with Steam, Steam with EGS. Both will updated the same cause otherwise you can't have that connectivity. Anyone fearmongering they remove this is seriously thin-foiling. And that's why I hate the EGS haters, all these baseless accusations, fearmongering and half-truths.
EGS sucks, but boy is this hatetrain far worse.

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You can pat yourself on the back for thinking you are clever for 'explaining' basic marketting and capitalism all you want but the discussion is about the merit for us-actual consumers as to what Epic is doing. So sorry to say but it's no hatetrain where a game I bought on Steam is getting it's future gimped/destroyed just because Epic said so. They deserve to be called out on that,hate is just a side effect. People abadon,move on and grow tired of MP games all the time. You need to keep selling it to always have a possibility for fresh blood in the playerbase. And Epic didn't bought Psyonix for shits and giggles. Of course they will offer some incentive for people to start abandoning Steam version of RL. Maybe some exclusive DLC but they will make good on this investment by the end one way or another.

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"The game get destroyed because EPIC said so" ? Did you read/hear your own words before you send them ?

They will support all versions the same.
Rocket League is sold for Ps4 and a other console too RIGHT NOW and not at the steam store.... only as a hint.
And with that crossplattform compatibility they work since YEARS (and are know for it).
They will make the most money with the "Skins" stuff. As right now too. So a compatibility would be in there own interest to raise the worth of this trademark/IP. It will raise the money they can get for it when they sell it to someone else or offer corporations to someone.

Before i don't see something changes at this point i am not "crazy" about normal company promoting and earning money stuff.

And yes MAYBE get the Epic store buyers of RL then a "exclusive" banner, wheels or whatever ... but in which way it will harm me when i want to play RL at steam (as i do it now) ?

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They didn't say so.
Infact... they said the direct opposite.

Which is EXACTLY why I am questioning all this "sky is falling" stuff. Where does it base itself on?

They make "true on the investment" by leading new players to their store, hopefully inticing them to new purchases. The game itself also makes quite a bit of money on micro's, as Fortnite itself. Making exclusive dlc for their store is contrary to both these goals.

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Are you saying someone can speak truthfully in such a PR situation? They just got bought/sold themselfs out. Of course the one and only thing they can say is "this partnership will only make RL better then ever before and everyone will benefit from this!" .

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If your best argument is "well, obviously, they lied" then yeah, thin-foil theory.

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I'd say my argument would be Epic's entire entry into the PC marketplace with everything they've done so far shows their real motivation but I'd love to hear how buying off Psyonix is yet another,good for consumer C O M P E T I T I O N move that should only be looked at positively,full of hope and trust on what they will do with this investment.

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Lying or not, tinfoil or not, Hes got a point.
What do you expect a company to say at such a moment ? "We expect downfall" ? No.
Even if it is bad they wont say it. They will try to fix it.

I mean you are the one trowing around "market strategy 101" words around but somehow this slipped your mind. No company deliberately shoots themselves in the foot. So yes, the strategy could be good and all they are saying might be true. But at this point you cant know if its really just a way to try to save their skins for a moment. PR is meant for this exact scenario - make them look good in public and make new clients not go away.

My point is - these PR massages are just as big of bullshit as adverts on TV are. Just the good stuff. Everythings great, everythings perfect, everythings going to be just splendid.

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I don't expect companies to buy other companies to instantly kill them.off, no (except EA. But they are "special").

This isn't a deal like others it's a full buyout. Like MS is doing NO aswell to boost their x-box in the struggle against ps4. I don't expect them to kill off their new acquisitions either.

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Yes, companies buy other companies to grow. It's such an evil concept. It's called capitalism.
It's been going on in the games industry since... ehm... forever?

You can prove me wrong by finding Mass Effect 3 on Steam, made by BioWare. What do you say, bought by EA and hosted only on Origin?

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EA didn't yanked Mass Effect 3 out of Steam where it's been there for years.

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I was more thinking the Metro Exodus etc. controversies on that point.

But mostly just basic "company takes over other company and hosts it on their launcher".

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I almost pulled the trigger in the last sale, and now I feel almost like having dodged a bullet.

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"Better the devil you know than the devil you don't" comes to mind.

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Review bombing incoming

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Expect Rocket League 2 on the EGS in a year.

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My Hatred for epic grows more.

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:-D

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1700 hours. Will likely quit when the transition happens. I have too many other games to play anyway.

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I'm really confused as to why you would stop because a company was bought by another? Everyone here seems so upset, but we already own the game on Steam, and no crazy plans have been made about how the game will be changed. I really don't get it.

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I'm happy with Steam. I have a huge library with Steam. I like that all my games are in one place and when I want to game, I look at my Steam library and pick a game. I have my profile that I've customized and where I can see all my game stats. It's my "console". It's my collection. I've re-bought games from my past that I owned or still own on other consoles, so that I can having my gaming collection in one place.

When companies require their own secondary launcher, like Uplay, I deal with it. I still get the game on Steam and have it as part of my collection.

I don't buy games that aren't on Steam. I've gotten some through bundles, like I have a few Origin games, but they never get played because I never see them.

So when Epic starts strong-arming their way into being a Steam alternative by paying for exclusives, it doesn't sit well with me. I want to continue to have all my games on one platform. Now they've gone a step further, buying a DEVELOPER in order to make their content exclusive. I don't want to support this platform.

I don't want to support these practices.

I've spent an EMBARRASSING amount of money on Rocket League, mostly on keys for crates, both for fun and for development of a YouTube channel. At least I do have quite a nice inventory to show for it. I bought a 4-pack of the game when I first purchased it. I got another copy through Humble Monthly. Those were all gifted away. I bought another copy for my alt account. I bought most of the DLC.

I don't want to give money to a company that's trying to fracture my game collection.

Yes, I'd still be able to play Rocket League on Steam (likely with the Epic launcher loading with the game). No I wouldn't have to keep spending money on it. But it's really a matter of principal. It's the same reason I never do business with Bank of America, or Sprint, or Apple. I don't like the way they conduct business and will not support them.

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I'm like you, I only buy stuff on Steam and deal with other secondary launchers, but the similarities stop when you say you'd stop playing RL to not financially support business practices you don't agree with. That's fair enough, thanks for the reply. Makes more sense now :)

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Clarification by Psyonix/Epic:

We reached out to Epic Games and Psyonix who have offered this clarification: "We are continuing to sell Rocket League on Steam, and have not announced plans to stop selling the game there." An Epic spokesperson added, "Rocket League remains available for new purchasers on Steam, and long-term plans will be announced in the future."

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They should work on their wording. :o

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Even so, that feels like a last second course correction more so than what they wanted to do. In either case though, I think it's a fairly safe bet we're going to see a bunch of Epic Store exclusive DLC going forward.
RIP Rocket League on PC. :(

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Thank you for posting this, hopefully the OP sees it and edits the thread.

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Np, but credits go out to InquisitorAles who posted it in a common group.

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So all this mess for nothing... again?
I get tired of this, someone kick their PR people to get english lessons or something.

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It is not PR people and their english.

It was just a simple test by Epic to see how far they can go and they recaived a huge backlash from community so they added a clarification.

Now all they have to do is make Epic luncher be required to play the game on Steam so when they will try to buy next game to be their exlusive they will have the numbers to say "well look here we have so many active users!" (Fortnite + Rocket League)

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I see this clarification doesn't stop the tinfoil theories... sigh
I understand you want to hate Epic really much, but you don't have to invent doomday scenarios.

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It is a way companies all over the world test the water and what they can do and what they can't.

The company I work for do that too but not on a game market.

Edit: And I don't want to hate Epic. I just don't care about Epic and I know I will never buy a game there as I have Steam and GOG and these 2 places are my main stores. And I can wait for Metro or for Borderlands or for The Sinking City or Hades a year or two.

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You think so? If people complaining really made Epic chance course I see very little of that. You sure they just happen to listen this instance and ignore all 100 others?

And the theory was "well, not this... but they will add the Epic launcher to startup instead!" I see popping up and you said too.

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Yes I know Epic said many times they think about developers and they don't care about customers but still this testing the water is thinking about developers and future exclusives and way to acquire them.

Adding a Epic luncher would be the most logical step they can do.

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But, once again, why listen to costumers on this very small aspect on one game... and not major things like exclusives, forums, reviews and everything else everyone asks for?

No? Why?
I can see the going f2p point (since Epic is making bucks over that so it's possible they try the model with other games) but don't see how people skip to "epic launcher included" or "steam will not be updated" ljke it's the most sensible thing in the world to take over a company to bomb all your customers and sink it.
I feel like I fell into a world where everyone is the CEO of EA for some reason.
(But really most of it is people kneejerk reacting over every EGS news and not thinking about it much, rather than actually thinking about it without "epic bad" and more "what would a company do this for? Make money. Okay, what's the best way to make money here?")

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Could be worse. Could be a world where everyone is the CEO of Activision—Blizzard.

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I think EA is worse. They take over company after company to kill them, funded by EASports micro-transactions. I don't really understand what they are doing.

ActiVision Blizzard on the other hand just keeps their limited number of titles and stretches them really thin till people are tired of them and then... what? I really am interested what they will do down the line to keep afloat. If they are all as bad as Diablo Immortal it'll just be hilarious. Not heartgunching as seeing BioWare's fall in decay or looking at the corpses of Maxis and Westwood.

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I think both EA and Blizzard now are just digging a hole that they will not be able to get out of.

We also have to wait and see what will Microsoft do with InXile and Obsidian that they bought. Will we get good games like we did before or will they create crap?

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No disagreement there.

Probably good, but consumertuned open world experiences they can monetize. Most will love that since why else is that the popular thing, but me, it's not really what I am looking for in Obsidian titles.
But we'll see.

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I want good singleplayer RPGs.

I hope for more games like Pillars of Eternity or Wasteland or Tyranny.

And maybe The Outer Worlds will make Fallout be Fallout again. Still I would want next Fallouttype games be like Fallout 1 and 2 or Tactics.

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+1
But sadly, I don't see that happening. A PoE wouldn't suit X-Box very well.

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They didn't listen to customers but to Psyonix. Psyonix got backlash over selling everything to Epic. Epic got hit only with a shrapnel.

Epic luncher included will not bomb anything. It will make Epic look better when they will push for another exclusives.

Something closer to my home:

Let say we have 500.000 people who use our app. We see there is an app that also have 500.000 people now.
So we buy an app and put our app in as a requirement to start that other app.
Now we have 1.000.000 people who use our app.

And now when we try to negotiate with some other company how much we can pay tham if their app will only be available in our app we can pay them less if we say we have 1.000.000 people than if we say we have only 500.000 people.

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Since when does the company just taken over bosses the mother company around, rather than the other way around? Psyonix doesn't got much to say, it sold it's voice.

How will including it make Epic look better? You mean more attractive?
I was more thinking about leaving current users alone while getting new players in your store. But it seems the news was bogus anyway. You don't buy a company just to push your store. They could have just made deals then like they already did dozens of times. They're in it for the money and the people, and you wouldn't risk those to push something you can push dozens of other ways.

In your example I would ask;

  • Is there overlap between the 2? Not much point if the 2 userbases are similar.
  • If not, why merge them. You own both. Is there a benefit in cost of future development or support in having 1 service. Will the loss of people be smaller than this cost saving?

Good point on marketing a larger userbase though. Usually that would be for ads (which EGS doesn't use) but yeah, it can use it in exclusive deal discussions.

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Sometimes to earn more money you just need to save and spend less.

I don't think that these 2 userbases are similar. You merge them just for the numbers. Businessmans see only numbers and userbase x looks worse on paper than userbase y (x + z) because it is a bigger number. That means you can negotiate a better deal and earn more or spend less or both or even convince more games to be exclusives because of how big is your userbase.

If this works with apps it will also work with games I think. Businessmans likes numbers and the bigger the number the better.

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We are continuing to sell Rocket League on Steam

Meaning it's still for sale right now, which we know.

and have not announced plans to stop selling the game there

They haven't ANNOUNCED that they will stop selling it (that will change)

Rocket League remains available for new purchasers on Steam

Same as the first sentence

and long-term plans will be announced in the future

There will be an announcement about the game's status on Steam in the future, which will be an announcement that they're no longer selling it.

You guys need to learn how to read PR speak.

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Watching FUCKING BORDERLANDS AND METRO GOIN OUT WAS HAHAHAH KEEP IT LIKE THAT U DONT DESERVE US NOW MY FUCKING FAVORITE GAME DOING SAME GOOD JOB VALVE GOOD JOB PSYONIX "WHEN THE MONEY TALKS THERE ITS NOTHING LEFT TO SAY" !! FUCK U STEAM!

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I can't describe how mad I am.

Epic Games really want me to hate them.

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Fortnite revenue is estimated to be about 2 billion.
Epic's profits were guessed to be over 3 billion.
As usual, their main source of income remains the Unreal Engine's licensing fees, since it is still the most popular commercial gaming engine out there.
So, even if they do run out of Fortnite money, you'd have to convince the entire video game creating scene to either buy a different engine or pay hundreds of millions to develop an in-house one. (And Anthem just shows how great an idea that can be.)

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I wonder how many 100's of millions they've spent in the last 6 months...

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A lot, likely. Then again, having money for the sake of having money is pointless, even for companies. One of the main gripes its investors had (and likely still have) with Apple is that it is just sitting on a gigantic pile of money, way beyond any reasonable meaning of emergency reserves, not doing anything with it.

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Never liked this game, one of the few i refunded. Good riddance!

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Can Epic just fuck off like seriously... I'm all for healthy competition but buying exclusivity rights to games is just not the way to do it.

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Epic and Psyonix have had a long history of working together. Psyonix developed the Onslaught mode for UT 2k4, and they've also done contract work as hired guns for other Unreal Engine-based games, so this doesn't particularly surprise me.

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LOL :-D

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Rocket League is a known quantity. Most of the money with it has already been made. Either Epic has some inside information on what Psyonix is developing now and expects it to be a hit, or Epic bought it out of desperation.

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Or like I said above, it could be because Epic and Psyonix go way back (they developed Onslaught mode for UT2k4, among other things), and they figured it was time to make them an official part of the company. shrug

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