where's the sale?? i only see the same discounts of every day..... what's the new big thing they was going to do???
steam sales..... suck.... there's no hope anymore to find nice sales.
the games have the same low discounts for more than 2 years...... i think i'm gonna start pirating again the games instead of supporting companies... they think we all are rich as them......
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Yeh ,nothing much to see ,i bought 3 games that were mentioned here :
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/JGbPs/best-summer-sale-deals
The Room Three
Thief of Thieves: Season One
Unforgiving - A Northern Hymn
When i say 'bought' ,i mean they're sitting in my cart but i can't buy them due to steam "connection error" .
Steam servers are fcuked atmo.
No surprise there.
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Pretty disappointing.
- Some games high on my wishlist have no discount at all, while they already were on sale previously. Dragon quest for example
- Many games have worse discounts than they already had
- The Grand Prix is overly complicated, not very thoughtful designed and with little rewards. Wish they still had that 5€ discount if you spend more than x€, like in the Lunar Sale.
- I have some ten thousand points I could use for boosts, but no capacity to use them. Tried playing Stardew Valley to unlock some quests. Achieved at least four, got nothing unlocked.
Yep, great fun.
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Pretty disappointing.
- Some games high on my wishlist have no discount at all, while they already were on sale previously. Dragon quest for example
- Many games have worse discounts than they already had
Better luck next time sale! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I can't complain. Bought three games for about 10$.
I wish Far Cry New Dawn was cheaper tho. I was hoping for 60, maybe even 67% off, but that's alright. I can wait... like most people here, I already have a huge backlog. :3
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I'm also waiting for a bigger discount on New Dawn. I have yet to play 5 so I can wait. :)
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Considering the reviews I've read, I'd be more inclined to buy New Dawn if the sale price was about 15-16$ CAD, which is about 67% offÂ. Maybe we'll get that during Winter sale. ^^
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Meh, I got some Paradox DLC and might buy Slay the Spire and Divinity: Original Sin 2 too. Who knows, I might even get 15k tokens. I'd still consider this a pretty disappointing event. Especially when you consider that Steam should be interested in showing their best, with all this new competition making their appearance.
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If by "new competition" you mean Epic and other pay-to-play subs... Well, Steam has around 47 millions of daily active users so I'm not sure they're feeling any pressure to step up their game for now.
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By not paying attention or being too complacent, that's how market leaders lose their position.
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Definitely. But I'm fairly certain they're monitoring the market... if a significant shift happens regarding the user base and/or sales, I guess that will set them in motion. Future will tell.
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Ah yeah, I've read about that. New Dawn would probably be the only one I'd be interested in. Perhaps I'll sign up as well... although I'm not thrilled by that subscription thingy, pay to access games instead of "owning" them. Not sure I want to encourage that.
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I don't usually pay attention to sales, is there such a thing as non-discounted games at the start of the sale joining the event in the following days?
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Yes. Though not quite as long as this time, often games erroneously lack sale till a bit later, so you can see "new" discounts.
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Thank you for the info, I guess there's no need to wait until the end of the sale xD
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Not really, it takes few hours for all the games to get their discounts (with all those DLCs it's probably over 100k entries in a database that needs to update), but right now the prices you see are pretty-much final.
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Appreciate the reply, I'll just take my time to add stuff to cart for a few days watches money fly away
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This new event s#cks. Who is the Idi#t who has programmed the randomiser for the games you will need to play to earn coins. Got a few games that i can choose between. I am a game collector. That mean that i try to collect all games, but i will never play the shit, that steam offers me to play to earn coins.
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Maybe that'd be on you for collecting games that you have absolutely zero interest in actually playing and not Valve? I don't think you can blame Valve for assuming the games people have bought are ones they want to play/try.
Not got anything against collecting, I collect some games myself, but I don't feel like this is the thing to be mad at them about...
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Ever heard of bundles? Or games being given away for free? Most of us have our libraries filled with games we got from bundles or giveaways. That doesn't mean we want to play everything we get, nor have everything installed on our hard drives. He's right, this event sucks.
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No one is forcing you to activate all the games you get in a bundle, or even participate in giveaways for games you're not interested in.
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Do you know that humble can get out of keys also for a AAA monthly game and you recive the message only they they will try to refill the keys as soon as possible, but sometimes they never get them. So you have just waisted a great game. Now i activate ALL keys when i buy a bundle. That means that you get some games that are probably ok, but nothing that you will ever play.
You have also nearly 1000 games. Are you ready to play ANY of them only becase steam says so. How about "Heaven Island Life" or "Hacker Evolution - Untold" and you will need to reach a spesial archivment in them.
I sorry but i dont have endless time to waist them with this. I would be glad if steam would show which games i am playing (not just own) and make the offer with the archivment for smilar games ( ok 1-2 games different tipe could be nice but this games should be good and not just rundom taken or would you want to make some archiments in the "Raven’s Cry
"?).
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I don't disagree with you about this event. And I would even go as far as to say it would be a much nicer idea for me as well, if the event suggested games that were in my most/recently played genre. I've looked through my list as well. Most of them are games I have no interest in playing right now, if at all. All I was saying was, that no one is forcing you to activate the games on your account. I have plenty of games in my library that I've never touched, so I'm as guilty as anyone here of activating games that I know I'm never going to play.
All I was commenting on was the fact that you don't NEED to activate games in your account that you're never going to play. Games you might play in the future, but are uncertain about? Go right ahead. But games you know you're never going to play? What's the point? You don't have to hang on to them if you're afraid of the key being invalid, just give them away. I hardly ever activate everything from a bundle myself, but the keys get used.
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I have a list on steamtrades, tryiing to get the games i really interested in indtead of the games i have. The list includes at the moment 1435 games ( some of them several times.) All "good" games that can find a new owner landing on the list, but after i had not more working keys so many times now and as the response fron several bundle sites that they can garant a working key replacement only in the first 30/ 60 days after they have sold them i began to activate all what left over istead of the letting them expire.
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Is there some sort of obligation I'm unaware of to activate everything from a bundle, and enter giveaways for games you're not interested in? Afaik most people activate what they actually want from bundles and either giveaway, trade or sell the other keys (and OP is a trader).
But this beside the point anyway--OP said he's a collector, one that also collects games he has no interest in ever playing. So I don't know what point you're trying to make here with this since I was talking directly to said OP...
And I never said this event didn't suck, don't put words in my mouth. I said if you're going to be mad at Valve about something here (and there's a fair bit to be mad about--which I did imply), it probably shouldn't be at them making the perfectly fair assumption that peoples libraries will be filled mostly with games they actually want to play/try. (And let's face it, with all the multiple choices of games they've given people in this event, to have NO games whatsoever you want to try pop up--your library is most definitely going to be full of stuff you don't actually want to play).
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I've never seen someone get condemned for redeeming bundles... till now.
The majority of buyers do NOT infact do what you claim, they activate it all. And prior to finding steamgifts excess doubles just got lost.
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The majority of buyers do NOT infact do what you claim, they activate it all.
Any evidence to back that up, or is it simply your opinion stated as fact?
Because quite literally no one I know activates everything from a bundle.
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Based on Group Buy buyers. Fairly, a lot of those would be collectors. But all my friends DO activate all they get from HB (Monthly).
Still doesn't exclude this is the first time ever I see people get angry about actually activating games. On Steamgifts!
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I'm a Group Buyer (more often than not, actually) and I don't activate everything from a bundle. I've never seen Group Buyers announce what games they're going to activate (outside of this forum), and only post "One for me" or something similar in the group buy forum.
In fact, there's plenty of evidence right here on the forums that a great number of other people don't activate every game from a bundle -- they'll often announce in a bundle thread that they activated XX game and YY game and will give away the rest.
There's no strong evidence supporting that the majority "does this or does that", so it's pointless to say "the majority" when you don't really know if that's the case or not.
Still doesn't exclude this is the first time ever I see people get angry about actually activating games. On Steamgifts!
Uh, not sure who you're referring to, because the only person in this comment chain who seems even remotely angry is Pavel.
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SG users are not really the avarage consumer.
Without Steamgifts would you just let a key evaporate... or use it? I know I picked #2 and finding Steamgifts I had a LOT of excess keys that were just gathering dust otherwise. Why would one gather dust on a key of an unowned game?
Heck, I bought IG bundles from the source for a loooooong time before finding Group Buys. Most people don't know these places.
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SG users are not really the avarage consumer.
Not sure I agree with that, because again, it's simply opinion stated as fact. And, if you believe that, why are you using them as an example? (Most Group Buyers are actually SG users.)
Without Steamgifts would you just let a key evaporate... or use it?
I gave away hundreds (perhaps more than a thousand) of keys before I ever heard of SG.
Most people don't know these places.
You keep making these statements without really knowing whether or not they're valid. This is my entire point.
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The 2 times I hosted GB's I didn't see any familiar faces from here pass by.
To whom? If some game was on no one's wishlist, did you poke everyone till they found a user? Just posted them on a Steamwall? And haunted the activator to use it since +1 is evil. I am sure you can think of no users meming about people adding +1's.
Well, there's a how manh million Steam userbase? And how many on Steamgifts? But feel free to somehow ignore that as well.
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Yes, there are collectors here. However - there are also a great number of people who only activate games they intend to play. Those are the ones you are ignoring to lump "most SG users" into one category.
Oh and to answer your first question -- I once ran a guild of over 1500 people. It wasn't hard to find a taker. After that, I'd drop them on Steam, Facebook, Twiitter, or gaming forums. I didn't care if they were activated or not, so I'm sure many "evaporated", as you say.
And haunted the activator to use it since +1 is evil.
That's a nifty embellishment, since I said nothing of the sort.
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Sometimes I do feel SG would be a lot better just with giveaways, and without the elitist entitled circlejerk of the forums. Not aimed at you - just how a site that is about giving, has a from where nothing is enough and hoarding is glorified.
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Where exactly am I condemning anyone...? Or anything? You've misread my point and/or are purposefully misrepresenting it in a horrible way. I said above, very plainly, that I have nothing against collectors. I even said I'm a collector myself. My point to JaFa was that that's not a good argument in the context of this conversation. There is no obligation to activate these games (certainly not for a trader who's active on SG..) and you putting so many games that you have no interest in whatsoever into your library is something that's on you not Valve. This isn't something you should be angry at them about.
Again, this isn't me saying, "fuck you for doing that, it's wrong" (I don't know how you've gotten that at all...), it's me saying "you shouldn't be angry at Valve for this". Especially when they've got a long history of having such features in events...
"The majority of buyers do NOT infact do what you claim, they activate it all. " My experience has been different to yours. Most people I know (the few that actually buy bundles) only buy bundles when they have enough games they're interested in, and when they buy a bundle that has a few games they aren't interested in AT ALL, they do the things I said. Why would anyone outside of collectors--a very, very small minority of Steam users by the way--ever put said games in their library? Most people like their library being full of games they like (this should be obvious). And I don't see the point you're trying to make with "prior to finding steamgifts"--what's 7+ years ago got to do with this conversation...?--and is SG the only way you can give people (or your friends) games now...? Did SG in someway invent gifting?
edit: I don't really want to argue with you, but I don't like you accusing me of condemning someone for "redeeming bundles". Please reread what I've said.
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Your first response didn't but then several people came being very dismissive of activating games, including your second post. It's not in response to your singular posts, it's several people looking down on activating your keys, which seems very odd on Steamgifts which houses many notorious hoarders. I never ever seen this.
I'm not sure where being a trader forces you to sell all your games comes from. All Group Buy hosters for example seem to also collect ALL games from what I can see.
I am not responding to your initial post but all the "shame on you for activating stuff!" that came after it.
Because what else to do? Most people do not gift, do not trade. The only alternative is just waste them. Better than to just activate, get a few cards out of it, +1XP etc.
Funny, I just had my third cakeday. Where did those other 4 years come from? I wasn't aware the entire 15m userbase of Steam frequents here. I do gift friends dupes time to time, but most of them don't have IG filler trash in their wishlist. Should I have just let them gather dust then? Should others?
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Can you quote where I said something of this nature: "shame on you for activating stuff!"
What exactly gave off that message?
I don't know about what the other people said, but you were replying to me not them. This: "I've never seen someone get condemned for redeeming bundles... till now." was clearly in response to something I said.
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"Is there some sort of obligation I'm unaware of to activate everything from a bundle, and enter giveaways for games you're not interested in?"
Pretty much the start? Don't see how condensending that sounds? Usually sarcasm isn't used to be positive about something.
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So making a point that there's no obligation to active games you have no interest in ever playing, is tantamount to "condemning someone for activating bundles" in your eyes? ...In the context of arguing that you shouldn't be angry at Valve for not taking into account/expecting the small minority of people you'd be in?
Again, I never implied even in the slightest that I am against collecting. My argument in this whole thread has been solely about whether or not Pavel's complaint is a reasonable thing to be mad at Valve over.
Again, please reread from this thread from the start, you've clearly misinterpreted what I've said... I've reread it myself and I definitely didn't do that bad a job of being clear in my argument.
And don't try to change the subject here to me being condescending. We're talking about me "condemning someone for redeeming bundles".
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The tone is key. It's not "you can choice wheter to activate or not", you say "well, I didn't know there was an OBLIGATION to activate all!"
I am sure you can tell when something is condescending, and the obligation line defenitely fits. It's all in tone.
You weren't condescending in your first reply, so, again, I don't refer to anything said THERE. But I guess we're talking besides each other where you focus on Valve's achievements and I focus on the responses here people gave the OP for something many on this site do, making it all the more baffling to me here of all places this conversation takes place.
I do not disagree with you; This is not Valve's fault in the slightest. I am just baffled a bit how users responded to the OP (not your first post. That one was fine. But you did the same in the second).
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I can absolutely not see your perspective at all, sorry. I've asked for an explanation and examples and it seems you're now focusing on something entirely abstract. That my "tone" to you is of someone who is against collectors, which is an entirely awful reason to justify making a public accusation against someone on, and one I can't really do much to help--I've been as clear with my arguments as I can and have stated repeatedly that I am not such.
You seem to want to read something between the lines here, or want me to be something I am not for whatever reason.
But whatever the case we're not getting anywhere with this--and I'm just getting irritated now. Have a good day Hassat.
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Assuming I'm one of the "several people" condescending the OP, I just wanted to say I don't see anything condescending in neither yours, or my comments!
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If you take anything from what Zaugr is saying, it's that you simply cannot blame Valve for people activating games they have no intent to play. I've activated a bunch of games that I never intend to play, too, and I can't blame Valve for those games popping up in my event queue. I chose to activate them.
It's on me.
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FFS.
I am not. I am blaming people here for being hostile to someone activating games.
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I am blaming people here for being hostile to someone activating games.
And no one is being hostile toward anyone here, so you're wasting your breath.
Edit -- Submitted for consideration: perhaps you wanted to see hostility because someone disagreed with you, and thus found some where there really is none.
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Thanks for proving my point. :3
(I was referring to you looking for hostility where there is none).
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Oh, so you can detect hostility. Interesting.
EDIT; Says the guy only talking to me. (and a few others) to pick a fight. Yeah, I am sure that's completely benign on your part.
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I honestly haven't detected any hostility in this thread other then from you, blaming people for something that seems to only be happening in your view.
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launch the game needed for 50 min it will update in the game list.
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So they told me to wait until summer sale to craft badges. I guess with this event its not use right :/ ?
I been waiting for months
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Yea this is not the sale for badges i guess, no steam cards as far as i can see this time around,think this is the first summer sale that has not had them,think valve is getting lazy.
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so should i wait for another sale/event? I am thinking if this shitty event passes they will do it every sale and I will be waiting for nothing.
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Tokens and boost are totally broken right now for most of us it seems unless you are on team Corgi they you get a ton of tokens and points for free it would seem,ive already bought 4 games and played one as a task got no points or tokens team hare,,friend logs in she has not played or bought anything today starts with 2484 tokens and untold points..does multiple attacks on team hare(maybe no that good of a friend lol)
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Best quote I read regarding this sale (hirschy19 on alienwarearena):
It's so goddamn complicated and requires to both spend money AND time, it's manipulative, devious and annoying. Worst of all it pushes free-to-play trash, saying "games you own". No, thank you. Honestly I hate it, all of it: intention, conception and execution.
Tokens that expire, backgrounds which you can't turn into currency/gems. They've given up on their system or redistribution and reward, it's just an outright scam now, with a lot of pressure to spend early, log in daily, play stupid games (free-to-play trash) for stupid reasons.
It is innovative in many ways, that are just too coercive.
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So.... as I understand it, in order to collect the 50k+ points I have (which didn't even take that long, I worked today) I have to spend over $500 in games or "lose" all but 2000?
This sure is.... "FUN"
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I already threw away over 100 000 points lol. I'm never spending that much money anyway. If I need more points I'll just get them from a different game from already earned achievements.
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is it just me or many games are not discounted yet? this is weird many games usually have big discounts and i went through my wishlist to buy some and the discounts are ridiculous. maybe its early?
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Spend money on buying games or microtransactions via Steam Store.
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I spent about 6 quid from my steam wallet on a few cheapo's
and that daft racing game just seems like a total uninteresting non-starter .
Multiplayer only games near the top seems weird , not sure what they're up to with that.
Smells fishy to me.
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So, question about the $5 discount. If I spend 15k tokens on it and try to buy a game that costs less than $5, can I get that game for free?
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So, in order to participate in the daily giveaways, do we have to boost our team or we don't need to do anything at all? Because, if we have to boost our team, don't we all have 8 boosts max, so we'd only be able to participate in 8 daily giveaways?
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From what I've gathered (without checking in other places) boosts are based on how much points you have, 1000 points = 1 boost. If you have like 7-8k points that's 8 boosts and you increase the cap for said points by buying games. Might be completely wrong though but that's what it looks like to me comparing how many boosts I had before and after increasing my cap by buying a game.
As for participating in the giveaways, yes you do at least the rules say that.
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I have 8 boosts from the beginning. I gathered some points, but the number of boosts didn't change. But anyway, do I have to buy games in order to increase the limit? Or is there any other way?
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Each day the limit increases by 100 so you basically get 1 free boost every day if you've used up all your points, but that's about it.
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Kinda off topic, but is it "normal" that I had 0 points and none where added to my account when I purchased something?
Does it need some time to sync or something or should I contact Steam support?
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Is anyone else still having an issue with tokens? I went from -12,000 to -516 but I still can't do anything with that.
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https://steamdb.info/stats/toplevels/
Great job, Valve totally screwed Steam level with this event.
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Lol
Highest got 21,777 XP
With -4,200,339,423 / 289,800 XP to next level
But... they keep the level. Hmmm?
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lol, they don't even have a badge designed for level 28979...
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kojocf/
His Grand prix badge is only level 1 though so not sure what's going on here.
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so no earning 3 cards for doing your recommended game queue?
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i have 0 games with acievemnts on list
dont want buy games
dont want install shitty games i already own
is it possible to add games to achievement list? and get free points?
or some other way to earn points?
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Try launching games for >30 mins to add them to the achievement list. You need to gain an achievement once the game is on the achievement list to gain points
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so, i got some points , how to convert them to coins?
they gone, whats wrong?
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You must play any games with achievemenst for 30 minutes for them to appear there and then give points per achievements.
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Any one here who use 15000 coins(Bonus saving mode) for discount code ?And how this work? do you have to buy a 30$ game to use this discount ? like in february sale ?
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No - if you purchase below the discount value, you will lose the change. You can also purchase for just over the discount value and top up with wallet money (I have done both with 2x discount vouchers)
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Where can I even boost to get coins? This event is weird :D
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Did you join a team? Once you're in a team, there will be a big speedometer and underneath that will say BOOST TEAM XXXXX
Use up a boost to get 1000 tokens which you can access at the Pit Stop https://store.steampowered.com/pitstop
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My boost meter capability has been going down. Yesterday I had over 6000, my pitstop page says I got 4500 capacity from previous spendings, and today I only have 4100.
Either I don't understand how this works, or it's somehow buggy ...
Edit: Yup, looks like the boost capacity actually gets used up. This is stupid, I had to use up most of it just to get out of my negative token balance, and now all I'll get is 100 per day and 121 per EUR spent, so good bye $5 discount ...
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So if I join the #2 or #3 team I get the same chance at winning a free game or does #1 get more copies than #2 and #3. And the player pool is way smaller than Corgi for other teams so my chances go up by 0.03%? :)
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Team #1 gets more copies than #2 or #3 (300, 200,100 respectively).
From the rules: https://store.steampowered.com/grandprix/rules
Daily Prizes: For each 24-hour period, three hundred users that contributed distance points to the first-place team will be randomly selected to receive the top game title ranked in their respective Steam Wishlists that is currently available for purchase at the time prizes are awarded, two hundred users that contributed distance points to the second-place team will be randomly selected to receive the top game title ranked in their respective Steam Wishlists that is currently available for purchase at the time prizes are awarded, and one hundred users that contributed distance points to the third-place team will be randomly selected to receive the top game title ranked in their respective Steam Wishlists that is currently available for purchase at the time prizes are awarded. Drawings will be held within 48 hours from the end of each period.
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Hard to say, but probably more - it apprears everyone joined Corgi, so their chance for free game is 300/everyone.
Other teams appear to have less people, so 200/less-people might be a slightly bigger chance.
Thing is, hard to say who will be team #2 or #3...
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Summer Sale goes live today at 10am PT, 1pm ET, 6pm BST on the day, and will run for two weeks, meaning it ends July 9.
Home
https://store.steampowered.com/
SteamDB
https://steamdb.info/sales/
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