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No.

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No

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Nope. People do it anyways though.

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Selling your Steam account is a huge violation of Steam's Subscriber Agreement, which says that “you may not sell or charge others for the right to use your account, or otherwise transfer your account.” Worse, someone from Valve was reading.Mar 15, 2011

https://www.geek.com/games/valve-teaches-kid-a-lesson-for-trying-to-sell-his-steam-account-1327929/

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I mean... no. But from what I know, no one actually cares. It's like picking up dog poop, technically mandatory, but nothing happens if you don't do it.

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€300 here.

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A few towns in Spain have (or had, it was a while ago) the right idea.
They mail it back to the owners.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/05/town-mails-dog-poop-spain_n_3390191.html

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Yes, it is legal if you are from the EU.

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Nope.

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Wasn't there a specific EU law stating that an end user may resell his digital licenses freely? I admit, i'm trying to google it now.

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I actually think I've read something about it not being illegal (maybe still against the TOS though) in EU. Can't find the article again and too lazy to search. :P

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For example: https://www.engadget.com/2012/07/03/eu-court-rules-its-legal-to-resell-digital-games-software/

Buying and reselling any form of digital software is perfectly legal, the Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled. Software authors – or in the gaming world, publishers – can not stop customers from reselling their games, even if the publisher attaches an End User License Agreement prohibiting resale.

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Keep in mind that Steam can terminate your service for breaking the SSA even if what you're doing is legal. Valve is a private company, they're under no obligation to offer you a service.

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so EU it's legal, but it's still a bannable action.

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Thats pretty wierd :v

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well it makes sense. the point in that law being passed is more for microsoft then valve... microsoft wanted to tie licenses to machines rather then licenses by owners, EU stepped in and made it legal to resell your old licenses (resell computers with licenses). it wasn't so people could try and resell steam & blizzard accounts.

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EU allows resale of licenses, not accounts.

But if license is tied to account it's pretty hard to sell license without account :P

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Isn't that the same thing? You'll just be selling the licences in bulk.

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Steam does just not sell you a bunch of CD-Keys but also offers some kind of service together with your account. Because of that it is something different which affect the legal status of reselling your account compared to a licence.

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Oh, ok.

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Its not really technically illegal in some regions ... but i wouldnt do it regardless ... the risk is not worth it and its steam ... so they can ban you anyway :)

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"If a Steam account is found to be purchased or sold, the account may be locked permanently." how they can know if i really sold my account?

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They'll read this discussion :)

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Seriously, if I were working as a TOS violation detective at Valve, I would google not only outright sell/buy offers but also questions like "is it legal to sell your steam account?"

I would then place a permanent flag on the account(s) of whoever asked that question and would then watch out for suspicious signs, starting from sudden IP change (which wouldn't be very suspicious in normal circumstances) to more subtle things like change of store viewing behavior, game buying behavior, playtime characteristics, and even sudden change of genre interests.

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this is to advanced for the primates working in valve

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Well that is what their TOS says. But their TOS does not define what is legal or not, that is done by the law of the country you life in.
But ofc Steam may lock the account anyway. How they know this, they will not tell anyone, to prevent workarounds.

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Differents IP, different country, different types of usage such as payments with different credit card.

They'll investigate everything.

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rolf, like u can't leave ur country, right? I do it every year...

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Do you also change your email, payment method, profile name, profile picture and remove your friends, groups, etc.?

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yes, I did all of those, not on the same period, you dont trigger any alarm when u change those

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But people move...

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just dont.

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No, and why would you??

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It's not against law.

However It doesn't mean, that Valve has to allow it.

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Legal depends where you live but Valve have the right to close the account and fuck you over. Whether you care about that risk is what really matters.

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Nope

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legal is a bad choice of words to use when asking this question... it's neither illegal nor legal, it is however against the terms of agreement / terms of service.

edit: except apparently it is legal in EU, but still a bannable action.

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Yup. It's actually legal but then it might also be legal for Valve to close said account for breaching the TOS...
I'd say don't do it unless your definition of "fun" includes spending some time in court to stand your ground ^^

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forget about legal its a shitty sell and shitty buy - rl friend of mine bought a (then) 11 year old account on ebay for lousy "two-fiddy" 2.50$
(no ban, first & then free steam games, 0 game-time) ... asshole seller from Dumbfuckistan tried to claim it back several
months later he told me, but he couldn't lol > as the mail was changed instantly and no brainier the password ...

i'd imagine there's lots of account transaction scam "sell & retrieve later" also selling an account and having a bum-buyer
demand their money back a.k.a. "gibbe no moni and retrieve scam" along with many others popular on ebay and elsewhere

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not legal according to valve.

also the buyer needs to be pretty stupid since it's super easy to scam him. owner can try to reclaim the account with proof.

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Illegal? Depends on where you live. Can Valve stop you? Yes, but it's questionable if it's legal for Valve to do it. To my knowledge it's not been tried in court yet, and it's a fight that Valve might well lose if it were to go up in court in the EU.

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Just an FYI here but last year I contacted Steam Support to see what happens to my account when I pass away. My healths been very bad, so it needs concidered. Support said to just pick someone to take over it with username and password. So, an account is transferable but I not sellable. I can see that changing in the future possibly though.

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As others mentioned before, It's against Valve's TOC but the legality of the issue depends on the laws of your country.

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No in any way... But if you sell it with original e-mail nobody will ever know... But never advertise the account name or link :D

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It is legal according to your local authorities.

Though, it breaks Steam TOS and will lead to account termination.

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