Is it ok to blacklist someone for purposely waiting to activate a product at the 6 day mark?
You don't have to have a resoning for blacklisting people. Some just do it for no reason at all. It's also weird to purposefully wait with the activation and if you feel, that you don't want to deal with such people, it's your right to do so.
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+1
Exactly my thoughts - You don't need us to justify your reasons for blacklisting someone.
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True one..
I got some blacklists and I really don't know why, as Borador said some users (regardless of their level, giveaways created etc., maybe they're just level 0 users) blacklist for no apparent reason.
I always try to activate every win as soon as possible, so this isn't a great behavior.. I wouldn't blacklist someone who does this, but for sure I'll never whitelist him xD
The fact that he activates other products except your gift is not the best thing to do, anyways.. so it's 100% your right to blacklist (or whitelist) who you want if you don't want him/her to join your future giveaways due to his behavior.
And as other users said, some users will blacklist you for this thread too.. so, take all your freedom :)
Don't worry at all, you'll always have way more whitelists than blacklists on your side! Keep it up with a good behaviour and nothing bad will ever happen here. Just blacklist him/her if his actions bother you!
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You can black- and whitelist whoever you want. You will receive blacklists for this thread.
To me it is very annoying as well, if users take their time to react after winning the game despite being active on Steam (not just idleing, but activating games and getting achievements) and SG (joining giveaways). Blacklist is one option, getting them to blacklist you is the other option. A third way might be to wait until they get permanently suspended for using an auto-join script (there are several users looking that way, at least to me).
In the end, don't worry about it & have a nice day!
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Thank you. I honestly don't mind getting blacklisted, but I don't want to blacklist people unfairly, especially if the community I'm apart of thinks that rule is terrible.
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I too find it annoying when people sit on their win for ages while being active otherwise. When they have the decency to apologize for the delay it's fine because, well, shit happens, but I had a few who silently activated 5+ days later and this is pretty rude IMO (yes I know the rules allow 7 days, but still, if you're active here and on Steam, why not bother to activate your free game :s). A few weeks ago I even had to do my first reroll after being ignored by the winner (who was active on the site) for over 10 days...
At least now we are able to see if the key was revealed though. It was a lot worse when we had no indication of whether or not the winner had viewed the key.
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You'll always receive some bl, even if you don't do anything, so just don't care about it. Still, they have the right to wait 7 days to mark received so it could be a little unfair to blacklist them. But you can, if you want, it's your right to bl whoever you want for whatever reason, even just because you don't like their nicknames, so :)
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Oh, no, I will always give them the right to activate the product within that time. I'll even contact them if they haven't and ask that they activate it within the next 7 days, so they'll have plenty of time. But it just rubs me wrong that I seen a particular person playing games on steam, activating other products on here, but not doing anything about mine until the last day.
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True, I can't know for sure. But, I also noticed that the person had waited the 6 days for other games as well. I know because I checked his giveaways received a few days after winning with no recent wins. Checked back a few days later and see he activated those giveaways around the 6 day mark, too. Then a few days later, on my 6th day mark, he activated them. It's possible I'm jumping to conclusions.
But yeah, a lot of people on here have given me a lot of perspective on this issue, which I appreciate. I don't think I'll make it a 'rule', so much as I'll check to see if there is a reason they waited so long, and only resort to BL if they're rude or do not respond.
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see someone purposely not activating their product within that time while active
u don't know this.
Anyway i think its a bad reason for blacklisting - i blacklist, for example, only forum spammers, shit-comments makers and leachers ¯ \\ (ツ) / ¯
But do you think that rule is OK?
your rule - is your rule 💮
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I had someone who was "active" on here for more then a week without even looking at the game he won from me. After seven days I removed the key and asked for a re-roll stating that the person has been on here without even looking at the key. The person marked it as "not received" after NINE days.
Te re-roll was approved and the other person BL me shrug for not getting the game.
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Many users log on only once a week or so, or activate games only during weekends (despite the very obvious online activator button added to the wins page).
Also, well, not like you can do anything for a week either, if they did not break any rules. Getting the gifts marked is a good thing and it is not uncommon to prod the winners a bit after 3-4 days, but otherwise, nobody is really in a hurry. :)
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I mean... you can blacklist anyone for any reason you want, childish or not. Personally Id find it a bit childish to blacklist someone because they didnt activate as quickly as Id like, but its your list, so do what you want with it.
edit: Thought Id add, I really liked Jbondguys suggestion and grez1's suggestion of assuming ignorance before malice. I know I forgot to mark received once until they sent me a message on Steam on like day 5-6. Could just be an honest mistake on their part
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If I can make a suggestion, simply change the rule to "if you can't activate the key within a few days of the giveaway ending, comment to tell me why". That way, if someone encounters some trouble during the week preventing them from activating the game (even when they are online), they get a chance to justify the wait and based on that (or based on their failure to reach out about it) you can make a proper decision whether or not you want to blacklist them or whatever it is you want to do.
And don't mind what people say about your blacklist rules - Your blacklist is yours to manage, and nobody can take that right away from you at this time.
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I like this perspective a lot.
I email people after 2, 4, and 6 days of not activating a win just to remind them, with the emails starting friendly and positive and then growing increasingly 'remember, if you don't activate it in seven days I'm going to reroll and you'll lose your chance'.
Most people activate the game after the first email, but then I got all the way to a kind-of-miffed 'I'm rerolling tomorrow' email before a guy responded once about his week being really awful and stressful and he just had a lot of things on his plate. He apologized for the wait, thanked me for the game, and activated it.
That really changed my perspective on things, and reframed how I think about it. Sometimes life really does hit you all at once (as I'm experiencing right now) and something like this site just falls by the wayside of importance. Late activators are annoying, and you can blacklist whomever for whatever reasons... and also it helps sometimes to reframe how important something like this is.
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So, you are allowed to blacklist or whitelist whomever you want, and I agree (as someone who does a lot of GAs) that late activators are super annoying. When I'm trying to ensure that a long list of games are all activated successfully, it's frustrating when people take that long.
But I will say that, personally speaking, I don't think that this is a good reason to consistently blacklist people unless you see repeated behavior. It's actually possible that the user can appear as active due to a tab being open in their browser, even if they're not really participating in SG. Now, admittedly, that's probably a minority of the people that you're seeing.
I usually reach out to anyone who hasn't activated their win by day 4 or 5, and politely remind them that they won one of my GAs, and haven't activated it. I also mention that I re-roll 100% of the time once day 7 hits. I've found that most people are apologetic and just forgot and take care of it right away. If I get radio silence, then I will consider blacklisting them at that point. If they get back to me later and let me know that they were on vacation or something, I will remove them from my blacklist, but of course if it has been a week, then their win will have already been re-rolled.
I try to keep a short blacklist. It's part of my personal philosophy of assuming ignorance before malice. I do so in the hopes that the same assumption is extended to me as well. I try to ensure that I have pretty good proof (even if circumstantial) of bad behavior before I blacklist someone.
So that's my take on it...hopefully, that helps you out. Cheers. :)
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Totally agree with Grez1, so I don't have to explain my opinion again.
I'll just add: You have so many more serious reasons to blacklist. My advice is to keep your 1000 blacklist slots for them.
Second advice is to never tell you'll blacklist if you don't want yourself to be blacklisted. Just do it but don't warn. (and I'm pretty sure you got blacklisted with this current thread, no?)
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You know what's hilarious? Since I expressed my opinion on here, I got on two new blacklists. Really? For suggesting that we assume innocence until we have proof? Ha ha ha ha
I guess a lot of people forget that blacklists are automatically two ways, and that by blacklisting me, they can't enter my thousands of GAs. C'est la vie. 🤣
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This actually all started because some guy called me out and said I was starting drama for stating that rule. Which is ironic, because isn't calling someone out instead of just quietly doing it a lot more drama than just putting that rule in the description?
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I don't actually care, but more than few days of laziness when people are clearly active and on Steam is rather bad. Specially now when only thing required is to log on Steam on browser and press redeem...
Still, blacklisting is free and easy! Too bad the list is so small...
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Annoying? Yes, but I don't care enough to do anything about it.
I use the SG app on my phone, so if I'm away from home, I can be online here and if my home PC is on (it usually is) I'm also online on Steam, but do I log in to steam on my phone browser to redeem codes? Noup, can't even remember my password to Steam, so can't activate any codes.
Then again, I rarely am away more then half a day.
As others have noted above, you can still blacklist (and whitelist) people anyway you want.
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I usually give my giveaway a little over 24 hours to finish. Unless it's a community wishlist, then I'll give a week.
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In my case, I entered the GA 2 weeks before the vacation. But to be honest if its a game I really want and see rarely given away, I'd enter even when knowing the GA would end when I'm abroad. Still, I enter only for games on my wishlist, which I would play and I don't enter all giveaways when knowing I'm not going to be around to claim them (which happens very rarely anyways).
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It's totally ok because you can use your WL and BL in anyway you like. It's the same with how and when you make your giveaways or what and when you play on\use your own Steam account.
It's that simple. ;-)
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To be honest, once it happened to me that I won a giveaway 1 hour after leaving for a 7 days summer vacation (I like to switch off during vacations - no phone, no computers, nothing digital). But I left a message on my Steam profile that I'll be back on a certain date. On the 7th and final day I activated the game (maybe the first minutes of the 8th day...) and apologised to the winner, and he said "it's okay, I saw the message" with a chuckle.
So I personally think that if you have undeniable proof that the person on the other side is a jackass - go ahead. But if you just "think so" and have no proof, then you are breaking the 7 day rule - which is a shame.
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As I said in another post - i give the winner 7 days to activate the product. I'll contact them and give them another 7 days. It's when I see the person has been active and claiming other give aways/playing steam games that I get a little mad.
Edit: I also noticed that the user in question would often wait the 6 day mark before activating. I checked his profile a couple times that week. I noticed the first time I checked it, he hadn't won any recent giveaways. but a few days later, he had claimed them, also on the 6 day mark. Then he activated mine on the 6th day. Could I be jumping to conclusions? Possibly.
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I apologise - I read only the Main post. Also - don't understand my post as personal or addressed specifically and only to you. In my post I meant "you" as general as any person. Just thought I'd share my opinion. I am glad you feel that way, and I thought you were referring to that. But with the games - you never know - I have a friend who never switches off his PC and leaves it on for a card idler program to simulate playing games to get the cards dropped. I have many other friends who switch off the PC, but when they turn it on idle again. But I see you are a man of reason and my examples will probably be obvious. Cheers!
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That is definitely a possibility they are idle. I'm glad everyone is giving me insight into the possibilities of what is going on. Maybe next time I will contact them first and see if they had a reason.
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I bought 156, thinking I could give them all away at once. Learned the hard way you have to build up to that point XD Now it's been a week and I've only giving 28 away. At least by the end of this, i will be able to give a lot away XD
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I was actually planning to do a few big giveaways (150 keys each) for cheap games, until I learned that I had to build up to that point. I bought the keys, went to make the giveaway, seen I could only give away 4 games at a time, and decided not to buy more until they were gone.
I was originally planning to do one big giveaway of cheap games one month, then the next a big game giveaway. Now, instead I'm gonna give away lots of cheap key giveaways throughout the month, and one big community wishlist game at the start of the month.
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People have blacklisted for less. Personally I don't care for blacklists or whitelists (though I collect them), but to each his own.
As for the issue at hand, it's easy for people to browse the site on mobile, but not everyone knows how to activate a game online. This could be one reason you see people on the site but they don't mark giveaways as received.
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Ah, so I could be a LOT harsher. I won't, but it could be worse. Thank you for your input!
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I think that's a justified reason for blacklisting, in particular if you see that they're online and active on steam and/or SG (now that you can activate games in browser, you've really not got an excuse for not activating games if you're active on SG).
To me though, there's a difference between life getting in the way, and you not being able to activate games and be active on Steam/SG and just not activating games while still being active here and on Steam. If someone is genuinely offline for a few days, I would not blacklist them, if they just don't seem to feel like activating the game, I would.
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I think you are getting worked up over nothing--is your life held up if you must wait 6 days for acknowledgement? Not unless you are really waiting for that one GA to push you up a level on SG.
Recently, I marked SENT. My winner patiently waited 7 days to inform me that he had NOT received (probably did not want to be rude.) I overlooked clicking the Key Release button even though I was active.
I do know that some people think that most any Discussion post requires a GIB for the hassle of looking at what you want to say. I have BLed twice ever--I do not remember what for.
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No, it's not about acknowledgement. It's actually so I could go on and give more games away. I had bought 156 keys and could only give 4 away at a time when first starting. It's less about 'this is annoying, I'm going to BL them because I'm impatient!' and more 'The more people wait to claim giveaways, the less I can give away at one time'.
Basically I just want to be able to give away more games. But, this is also before I learned I can make a ticket to be able to give away a large number of games.
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It is possible they only have a cellphone or are borrowing wifi on a vacation and don't have access to steam client and don't know how to activate from steam site or many other reasons also commented here. I'm pretty lenient and usually don't care until two weeks or a month later, but you can blacklist for any reason you want. In this case, it's annoyed you since you feel they've deliberately not receive it until very late and a justifiable situation for a possible blacklist imo though no rules have been broken. People have blacklisted for more petty reasons.
If you set giveaways to lvl1+, you'll probably get better mark as receive times due to less ... bots or not as active forum users.
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Steamgifts allows to mark as received a game within 7 days, only if they pass that time I would care... but they are free to activated whenever they choose to, within those 7 days.
About blacklisting you for it, I dont think anyone needs a reason to blacklist someone, so if someone chooses to BL you for it, so be it.
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OK, I'm kinda new to discussions and giveaways. But, I noticed that once and awhile, I'll get a user who purposely waits until the 6th day mark in order to activate a product. I have 100% no problem with a user that is inactive within that time, but not when I see them activating other products and such within that time.
So I recently made a giveaway rule that if I see someone purposely not activating their product within that time while active, I would blacklist them. But, then I got called out by another user who said that was a dramatic way to BL list someone, so decided to blacklist me in retaliation for my rule.
But do you think that rule is OK? Or not? Because if others think it's unfair as well, I won't include that rule.
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Conclusion:
I won't include the rule in my giveaways. If by the 6th day, someone has not activated their product, I'll contact them to ask why, and give them that extra 7 days. Only if they are rude or do not contact me, will I blacklist.
Thank you for the help and input, everyone! I want to be a good member of the community, and your contribution helps that. Feel free to keep posting your opinions, questions, or comments here, and I'll make sure to read them.
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