Hey Knsys, do you have updated stats since 07/04/2017?
It's for in my upcoming SGTools train. ;-)
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Here you go
STATS (08/05/2017)
- Number of users: 28.339
- Number of users that are giveaway creators: 1.328
- Number of users serving infractions: 31
- Number of banned: 19
- Ad-block Activated: 56,99%
- Ad-block Not Activated: 43,01%
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Hi knsys, I have 1 invalid entry on my GA:
http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/b694431d-2b34-11e7-9500-fa163ee2f826/invalidEntries
It's the one that starts with a letter 'A'
Please ignore the one that starts with a letter 'U', because he entered with the direct GA link that I mistakenly gave out
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Hello =) I'm having an issue with the DLC bug . Made a discussion thread not knowing this existed and i've pointed out here.
I'd greatly appreciate helping me out. Thanks =)
https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/TRrDu/sgtools-unactivated-winsdlc-bug
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Suggestion: Would it be possible to implement a rule that checks to see if someone posted in a specific forum post before a certain date and time.
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zero opposition to it here, but what would it's use be for exactly? i'm not quite following how/why that would be useful is all i mean.
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It is possible to do, but I fail to see the point of it. In which scenarios such a thing would be useful?
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If one were to make a forum post asking for help/advice and wanted to create a giveaway to thank those that participated by adding a giveaway afterwards. This way the SGTools link can be posted publicly in the post after the problem/advice has been solved/fulfilled and not have to worry any random user that comes in afterwards. The only way I can see doing it now is to go through the post and witelist dozens of people.
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It makes sense for some cases indeed, but I'm not sure it'd be used often (or at all).
If it gets more people interest I will think in implementing it though. Let's see what people say about it!
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I remember I posted here before, but DRAGON BALL XENOVERSE 2 should be removed from the whitelisted games now.
Reason: Steam API now detects the game properly. See image.
http://i.imgur.com/V7srTYS.png
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SGTools needs a filter taking into consideration a user's % of wins played.
IMHO this is of higher importance than things like "wishlist" filters.
I know a lot of people who would gladly use that filter if offered.
There's already a script for it, which means the data can be mined and cached.
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Such an option would be very useful initially, but long term I think there's a high chance that it would encourage some users to use SAM and ASF/IdleMaster. Faking CV is much more difficult.
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this would be one of the few filters i wouldn't particularly care for personally, however i don't see it being any more of an encouragement then the wishlist filtering encouraging people to wishlist everything in the store.
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This isn't supposed to encourage anything. It's supposed to give GA creators the power to enforce the amount of entries that they want.
Wishlisting everything doesn't really increase the chances of being able to enter wishlist-based GAs, because most GA creators define a limit for wishlist size (usually 300~500 games).
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same could be said for the purposed filter too though..
it's not supposed to encourage anything either. it's supposed to give ga creators the power to enforce the type of entries they want.
idling everything doesn't increase odds either. at least no more then wishlisting everything does.
xD
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I mistakenly took your response as one to my comment below rather than to Tzaar's proposal, so just scratch it off :-)
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ahh, no.. i'm totally for that filter update. it makes perfect sense to me. ^^
tzaar's i wouldn't care for too much, but it really shouldn't hurt anything either. i still understand it's desire too.
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% of win with at-least some achievement can reduce such matter.
And beside users not using ASF/IdleMaster would be a rare case. If you have number of games that you haven't played yet and there's still card drop left, and steam sales is coming, you'd probably use it.
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It's an interesting filter indeed, but it's a little more tricky to implement that it may seem.
For each game that a user owns, you need to make a call to steam api. Problem is that the number of api calls you can do a day is limited.
That's why the script asks for your steam api keys, in order to not use all of the creator's api calls in a breeze (apart that sharing your api key could be potentially bad for the one doing so).
As you can imagine, SGT already does a lot of api calls during the day, so reaching the limit would be a real concern if that is implemented. If someone wants to host a cache for that, I could query it and implement the filter.
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I have an idea for one way around that problem. Maybe giveaway creators could give their own api key to SGTools, like people already do at SG to to use the Are You Even Playing script. Then the giveaway creator's api key would be used to check anyone who tries to enter one of their giveaways which has a games-played rule on it.
This seems like too obvious a solution so I'm wondering if there's some hidden complications I'm not seeing. How many calls can someone's api key can handle in a day? I mean a giver's api key wouldn't easily get overwhelmed, would it? I don't think people normally set up a huge amount of sgtools giveaways at one time especially as they're often used to start trains.
Edit: Somehow I missed the part about someone having to host a cache. I'm not sure now how much my suggestion even applies.
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Exactly what Daerphen says.
Requests limits makes it impossible for sgtools to handle it with all of the other functionalities and asking for people's API Keys is a no-no.
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How about changing "Maximum number of Entries (Given URLs)" so that it checks actual current number of entries in the GA instead of URL? If someone wants to limit to 5 entries, for example, they're likely to end up with less because some users just get the link without actually entering the GA. If they increase the value of this option they may end up with more entries than they want. Checking the actual number of entries would allow exact matching.
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It's like that because once SGT gives away the url to someone, that person can enter the giveaway whenever he wants. So at the end, if I check number of entries in the giveaway instead of number of links given away, there could be more entries that is supposed to be.
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Got a leaked entry:
http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/7ed3f0ee-3837-11e7-9500-fa163ee2f826
The user entered a bunch of giveaways, including Krinkle Krusher
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I just checked it, and it's a true positive. Check out your giveaways keys, maybe you forgot to use one?
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I was wondering, how come Whitelist giveaways are combined with group giveaways (num_sent_group) ? Would it be possible to separate them into their own variables?
Also, is it currently possible to check how old a users SG account is? There are some variables related to the date, but not sure how to get that info using them.
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It's like these, because for steamgifts itself, whitelist giveaways are a subtype of group giveaways.
It's not currently possible to know the age of a SG account, why would you want to be able to check that?
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Just thought it might be interesting to do a giveaway specifically for long time SG veterans.
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Another person entered through a leaked link. You can find them in the Day of the Tentacle giveaway (among others):
http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/9d1925f3-3b51-11e7-9500-fa163ee2f826
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Hello
I have won giveaway from this train - https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/5JKgn/just-mini-train-ended
and after that SGtools lists it as unactivated
21 May, 2017 Racecraft Techdemo for Beta Testing - Retail
http://www.sgtools.info/nonactivated/tetsuj1n
What should I do in this case ? mark as not received (doesn't help) because I have marked received when activated key
Seems to be wrong key by GA creator ?
I wrote in that topic just in case
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What should I do in this case ? mark as not received
i think so.
you won:
https://steamdb.info/app/346610/
you received:
https://steamdb.info/app/415500/
and i'm pretty sure this one would fall under the "no beta keys" rule.
or give permission for deletion. your call there.
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Yeah, and apparently I am not the only one who got it.
I can't link you directly to GA since it is private GA
But if you go that that train link you can find that GA there.
Anyway thanks for advice, I will be communicating with GA creator and resolving it, I am ok with deleting the GA and not receiving correct key, because $hit can happen with anyone 😃
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ahh yeah i see that. that's kinda the risk of getting stuff directly from a dev. a lot of the times they only hand out demo or beta versions of it instead of the full version. in this case they are separate licensing, and don't appear to have the same content.
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since you didn't receive the game listed, you should probably un-mark "received" so your account isn't flagged while the issue gets resolved.
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Can't unmark now, it has 1 week cool down.
Will be a lesson for me, to be more attentive when activating 🤡
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Is that new? I know you can't mark "not received" yet but can't you just click "received" again to put it back to a waiting state?
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WOAH Thanks!
I am ashamed that ! didn't knew that... and my account is 4 years heh 🐷
I just never stumbled in situations like this
Thanks again for advice 😀 Unmarked it
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Damn right panic, and just when I was thinking of whitelisting people.
I really was whittling down my whitelist.
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It was either the first one, or the second one (very cliché)
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I cannot joint giveaways, it gives me strange error code for the rules. Rules checker says that I did not activated some dlc, but they are activated... it it because of that?
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strange error code
that info would probably be helpful to be specific on why you failed the check. not all sgtool invite only links are merely "rules checkers" only though, some of them have requirements such as 1:1 sent/won ratio, or relative. you may simply just be failing one of those checks instead. it certainly doesn't look to me like you would fail an actual rulecheck, and it also doesn't have anything to do with dlc.
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Here are some exmpls:
Custom rule: trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
Custom rule: num_wishlisted_games <= 1 and trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
Custom rule: trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
If you could tell me how to read it.. 😜
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Seems to me you won too much and given too little region free stuff. But I have not check each rule properly.
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whew, that's a very in-depth rule. i'm not the best at reading them personally, but that looks like it has some fairly hefty ratio rules involved. including region restrictions, group to public ratios, and overall ratios all combined into one giant rule. it's not the steamgifts rules you are failing though, just the rules of that particular private giveaway.
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Well, if you tell us what that "strange error" says, maybe we can help you understand why you can't join the giveaways.
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Here are some exmpls:
Custom rule: trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
Custom rule: num_wishlisted_games <= 1 and trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
Custom rule: trade_ban == false and community_ban == false and pass_activated_rule == true and pass_multiple_rule == true and ((level == 0 and raw_won <= 210) or (level <= 3 and raw_sent >= 0.1 and raw_won <= 233.34level and (real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.667)) or (level > 3 and ((raw_won <= 0.025levellevel(3400-levellevellevel)) or (((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.25) or ((real_sent_region_restricted / real_sent_cv <= 0.95) and (real_won_region_free <= (real_sent_region_free + level*12)))) and ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.334) or ((real_sent_group / real_sent_cv <= 0.9) and ((real_sent_cv - real_sent_group) / (real_won_cv - real_won_group) >= 0.7843)))))))
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Those are not errors. Those are custom rules that some users used to protect their giveaway.
If you cannot enter the giveaways where those custom rules are, it's because you don't pass those custom rules.
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kinda the same as the message above. you pass literal steamgifts rules so it's not that, its a customized rule you're failing and we'd need the custom rule string in order to attempt to decipher which part you failed. (though i'm not that great at deciphering them personally)
edit: oh well your edit changes things. wait it out and try back later, steam api is wonky atm then.
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THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE is causing all sorts of problems again
just needs a good release
💩
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Hello, after asking Steamgifts support for assistance, I'm redirected here to ask for help in regards to two "not activated Gifts on account" showing up in the rules checker.
Could you please let me know what the process is (if any) to get things resolved once and for all ? It's been two years and I want my profile clean. I've already documented both situations, upon which Steamgifts support has not been able to act. I am frustrated and feel like I'm going round in circles here :(
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the only thing you can really do for them is to activate them. whether it be purchase them yourself, trade for them, activate them if they never were touched, etc.
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Thanks for the quick response !
So basically I just need to purchase the two games in question and redeem them, in order to have my sgtools profile clean ?
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Got a leaked entry:
http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/debc056f-452d-11e7-91b0-fa163ee2f826
Only entered the non-bundled game from the train. :p
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Hi knsys,
did you maybe change something about the number of characters in a name being taken into account? I just did not pass a check because the tools says I won Humble Bundle for Android 3 twice. Which I kinda did but it actually was Humble Bundle for Android 3 (Above Average) and Humble Bundle for Android 3 (Below Average). Do you have an idea what's causing this?
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Maybe is a change on Steamgifts itself.
Usually SGT ignores the names and checks for multiple wins using the steam link (appid or subid). But when this is not available, like on this case, it uses the name of the game to check it. It seems that at least now Steamgifts doesn't show the full name, it uses the typical three dots that means that the name is longer.
So if you go see your profile and filter by "humble bundle", you'll see that they actually have the same name Humble Bundle for Android 3..., so SGT see them as the same exact game.
I guess SG used to apply the name shortening by css and was representing the full value of the title in the html and now it just shorts the name in html. That's why it flags as multiple wins (and looking at your profile it does look like that). So the obvious solution is that SG reverts to display the full name.
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I asked cg to take a look. Is there an alternative in case he can't work it out?
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None that I can't think of right now.
You can ask support if you can unmark as received or mark as not received the one that the giveaway creator has been away from the site for 1 year, until things get addressed (he won't miss the CV).
I'll remember it if you got triggered by anti cheat on SGT, so don't worry about that :)
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got three leaked entries. Thank you for the hard work! :D
https://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/17928c67-50cb-11e7-a98a-fa163ee2f826
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Hey Knsys, do you have updated SGTools stats please?
It's for the usual reason. ^^
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STATS (15/06/2017)
- Number of users: 29.051
- Number of users that are giveaway creators: 1.368
- Number of users serving infractions: 32
- Number of banned: 19
- Ad-block Activated: 58,21%
- Ad-block Not Activated: 41,79%
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Hi there. Not sure where to report this but I was directed to this threat. The following game http://store.steampowered.com/app/251870/Go_Go_Nippon_My_First_Trip_to_Japan/
does not appear to be activated and I don't see it on the Whitelist. What do I do? I'm just doing a check for this giveaway that just ended
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Same with this too, not on the whitelist (Am I doing it right? I'm a bit foggy and in pain right now ;D ) http://store.steampowered.com/app/487030/Beasts_Battle/
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you haven't even won either one of those games, so i have to say i'm a little confused as to what you even mean. do you mean you checked a winner and they didn't activate them?
if that's the case, then you create a support ticket for "Request New Winner" reason "Did not activated games this month" (regardless of how old the infraction is), and just give them the titles of the non-activated and/or multiple wins.
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I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. As mentioned not feeling very good. I mean to say that I have these two giveaways and so am checking out the winners through sgtools. In the Not Activated part it shows that the above games doesn't seem to be activated, and they are not on the whitelist. Sgtools suggested I report these games, so here I am?
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ahh okay, sorry i had edited my comment above on what to do in this situation.. ignore the "this month" part though as it sounds much more misleading then it really is. re-roll (request a new winner) and support will either tell you if they've already served their suspensions for those non-activations and deny the ticket, or they will approve the re-roll while suspending them for the appropriate time (depending on priors).
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My giveaway is restricted to RU+CIS and Invite Only but sgtools doesn't allow me to create giveaway reporting that it's not private. Is it bug or i am missing something?
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SteamGifts Tools is a tool in a form of a website that lets you do some interesting checks to steamgifts mechanics:
Link www.sgtools.info
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